Did this really just happen?

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One of Ajax's gimmicks is to act like the only complaint black Americans have is slavery, and since that is deep in the past, we just need to get over it. That there's been a lot of racial mistreatment of blacks since the civil war, up to and including in the present, he just mumbles over. That's why he (pretends to) think of affirmative action type programs are reparations for slavery rather than an attempt to correct for recent discrimination in education and employment.

Another thing Ajax tends to do, which is quintessentially racist, is assign collective racial guilt for the behavior of specific black people. He doesn't do this in the case of whites (or rather, people he thinks of as white), even whites he absolutely despises. Whites are responsible for almost every single thing he dislikes in politics, and not once has he conceptualized this in terms of the awfulness of white people. For them, he goes to their beliefs and doesn't racially attribute it or launder a racial judgement through a proxy like "white culture". At worst, he thinks of whites as experiencing a sort of false consciousness where their thinking has been captured by the other self-interested racial castes. This is not at all how he talks about minorities. For them, it's collective guilt and treatment. And, of course, we're not here discussing how horrible white people are because it's proven very difficult to scrub people like Ajax from existence. That's on people like Ajax, not those incorrigible white people.
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“ At worst, he thinks of whites as experiencing a sort of false consciousness where their thinking has been captured by the other self-interested racial castes.”

Probably Jews.

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"Tonight, I understand, is MAGA NIGHT AT THE WHITE HOUSE???"

I get the feeling he wants his people to show up so we can have another Charlottesville.

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[quote="Doctor CamNC4Me" post_id=1226199 time=1590861220 user_id=3779]
“ At worst, he thinks of whites as experiencing a sort of false consciousness where their thinking has been captured by the other self-interested racial castes.”

Probably Jews.

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I don't know. Ajax has always been a Nazi sympathizer who seemed more to admire the Nazis as the Nazis mutually admired neo-confederate white supremacists than adopt Nazi ideology himself. I haven't seen much anti-Semitism from him. Dude absolutely hated the Roma for reasons I don't understand, though.

Anywho, there's a growing body of evidence that at least some arson is being carried out by white people who don't exactly have the protesters best interests in mind. I'm sure Ajax, upon finding this out, will be making demands about how to remove "those people" from society any minute now.
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[quote="Doctor CamNC4Me" post_id=1226201 time=1590867730 user_id=3779]
"Tonight, I understand, is MAGA NIGHT AT THE WHITE HOUSE???"

I get the feeling he wants his people to show up so we can have another Charlottesville.

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His been trying to stoke violence on his behalf for several years now. Lot of *hint hint* *nudge nudge* that was painfully obvious because Trump doesn't do subtle. Remember him practically pleading to have people shot at the border?

Trump's already tumbled over several "worst case scenario" lines involving Presidential abuse of power and has found that the Republican party will keep him above the law. He's already responsible for a the negligent homicide version of genocide. It's not terribly difficult to imagine Trump doing, well, what he just did, then egging it on a little more. It's not even that hard to imagine him implying there will be pardons for those who commit violence on his behalf, which is the most brightline impeachable offense I can imagine short of things like engaging in unwarranted nuclear strikes, assassinating domestic political opposition, and the like.
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What’s the evidence of false flag stuff? Also, let’s not gloss over the sheer amount of BS vandals are doing with conspiracy theories that somehow allows apologists to wave away obvious crimes. It’s akin to having the Chauvin video and handwaving it away because Floyd was flopping a bit. I’m not going to pretend blacks and other minorities aren’t causing mayhem because some white antifa types, or agent provocateurs, commit a handful of crimes. When a bunch of black people destroy a Muslim man’s business, and show no remorse for that behavior even as he implores them to stop, I’m not going to write that off as pent up rage at white people. That’s just opportunism and they need to go to jail.

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[quote="Doctor CamNC4Me" post_id=1226204 time=1590869554 user_id=3779]
What’s the evidence of false flag stuff? Also, let’s not gloss over the sheer amount of ____ vandals are doing with conspiracy theories that somehow allows apologists to wave away obvious crimes. It’s akin to having the Chauvin video and handwaving it away because Floyd was flopping a bit. I’m not going to pretend blacks and other minorities aren’t causing mayhem because some white antifa types, or agent provocateurs, commit a handful of crimes. When a bunch of black people destroy a Muslim man’s business, and show no remorse for that behavior even as he implores them to stop, I’m not going to write that off as pent up rage at white people. That’s just opportunism and they need to go to jail.

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I'm not saying there's false flag operations going on. There's definitely chatter of doing false flag operations in the the online haunts of alt-rightists, but I don't think we've seen anything to show they're happening in the real world. What there is video evidence of is whites systematically starting fires to burn places down because they want to burn places down. Ajax, I'm guessing, is not going to collective racial guilt that.
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Can you post some of those videos? I’ve been kind of paying attention to Unicorn Riot:

https://mobile.Twitter.com/UR_Ninja

who is a hard-left to far-left ‘decentralized news organization’ and they’ve been all over the mayhem. I’m simply not seeing any “white people” torching businesses, but I suspect anarchists and antifa are doing their part with regard to destruction and looting.

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Whites are responsible for almost every single thing he dislikes in politics, and not once has he conceptualized this in terms of the awfulness of white people.
I'd have to agree with you on this that white people are completely responsible for everything I hate about the current political situation. The current situation in Minnesota is the fruit of liberal democrat policy.
Remind me how Mr Floyd was being 'confrontatlonal' as he lay handcuffed and face down begging to be allowed to breathe.
How do you know? You only know what happened from when the video started rolling? While video is about as objective as it gets, it's taken events out of context in the public eye time and time again. The Rodney King video certainly didn't make the public aware of what a POS this man was nor how many times he'd been arrested before.
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If anyone wants to put Ajax’s posting into perspective I just pulled this off 4chan*:

https://ibb.co/GR2kCSP

That’s his angle, and that’s his larp.

* This kind of imagery cycles through every day, multiple times each day, and it doesn’t matter when you visit the site if you want to see it. It’s always there in some form or another. Although I just noticed some Leftist stuff, so I’m not sure if they’re being brigaded or /pol/ is being taken over. I don’t know if it’s actively moderated, so I don’t quite understand what’s happening. It’s a... confusing place that lands somewhere between serious-but-not-serious-but-yeah-serious trolling, outright hate, and locker room gay chicken crap posting. Think Columbine shooters meets Hitler meets boys in dresses. *shrugs*

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