Did this really just happen?

[_Jersey Girl]

You're asking me a question that even the prosecution cannot answer right now because the full report doesn't exist until the tox report is received and there could be more than one autopsy performed.

No, the autopsy report doesn't include the officer's actions. The autopsy report is about the body. The body is one of the pieces of evidence. It includes a narrative of the examination of his entire body, photos, lab reports, and a conclusion as to the cause of death and manner of death.

If the autopsy report has no direct evidence of homicide, then the prosecution wouldn't want the report to be presented to a jury. The prosecution would ask the judge to block it.

They HAVE to enter the autopsy report into evidence whether they want to or not. They're not going to block an autopsy report in a homicide case.

[_Jersey Girl]

DT do you begin to see my fascination with true crime cases? It's complicated, you never know how it's going to end up, usually when it goes to court there is a plethora of evidence one could have never imagined would be collected, the forensics are amazing, the law is different in each state, and the perpetrators make the stupidest mistakes.

Like a cop killing a guy on the street while knowingly being recorded.

[_Jersey Girl]

DT I just thought of something else with regard to the body and the crime scene. It was reported that when Mr. Floyd's body was lifted up onto the gurney, that there was fluid on the ground. They'll have that sampled and analyzed as well for the purpose of evidence.

[_DoubtingThomas]

If the autopsy report has no direct evidence of homicide, then the prosecution wouldn't want the report to be presented to a jury. The prosecution would ask the judge to block it.

They HAVE to enter the autopsy report into evidence whether they want to or not. They're not going to block an autopsy report in a homicide case.

Can the prosecution argue that the autopsy report is not relevant to the charges?

[_Chap]

DT I just thought of something else with regard to the body and the crime scene. It was reported that when Mr. Floyd's body was lifted up onto the gurney, that there was fluid on the ground. They'll have that sampled and analyzed as well for the purpose of evidence.

The poor guy probably pissed himself in terror as he began to realise that the policeman kneeling on his neck actually intended to murder him. People do that.

[_Jersey Girl]

They HAVE to enter the autopsy report into evidence whether they want to or not. They're not going to block an autopsy report in a homicide case.

Can the prosecution argue that the autopsy report is not relevant to the charges?

DT...without the autopsy report in a homicide case, they have no evidence that the victim DIED.

Get it?

[_Jersey Girl]

DT I just thought of something else with regard to the body and the crime scene. It was reported that when Mr. Floyd's body was lifted up onto the gurney, that there was fluid on the ground. They'll have that sampled and analyzed as well for the purpose of evidence.

The poor guy probably pissed himself in terror as he began to realise that the policeman kneeling on his neck actually intended to murder him. People do that.

We don't know that. For all we know a can of Dr. Pepper rolled out of the police vehicle and spilled out on the ground. That's where forensics comes in.

[_Jersey Girl]

DT generally speaking, unless a person dies under the care of a doctor (hospital/hospice) an autopsy will be performed to determine cause of death and that will go on the death certificate. But let's say there's a 98 year old guy who dies at home in bed during the night and a family member discovers him deceased in the morning. In that case, I think the family can decline the autopsy procedure and the cause of death will either be signed off by a doctor as some chronic medical condition he's was being treated for or stated as natural causes.

[_moksha]

The prosecution would ask the judge to block it.

What are the Fox News arguments for the defense suggesting?

[_Jersey Girl]

DT I found this on wiki but I haven't checked the primary sources. Anyway, here it is...

An official autopsy found no indication that Floyd died of strangulation or traumatic asphyxia, rather that he likely died of the combined effects of being restrained; underlying health conditions, including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease; and any intoxicants[90] in his system. Floyd's family retained Michael Baden, a pathologist who had conducted a second autopsy on Eric Garner, to perform an independent examination in this case.[25][26]

So there you have the cause of death and a second autopsy to be performed.

Note where it says "and any intoxicants in his system". The tox report usually takes approx. 6 weeks to complete.

And this part: "he likely died of the combined effects of being restrained;"

There's the manner of death--homicide.