Peaceful Protest?

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DoubtingThomas wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:54 pm
Some Schmo wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:46 pm

I can't help myself...

OK, DT. Explain to me why this is racist. I'm very interested in your explanation.
You tell me. Just think about it.
I can't tell you. This is yet another beautiful example of you reading something and superimposing your own crazy thoughts over what you've read to reach a fallacious conclusion.

You made the claim. You explain the connection.
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ajax18 wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:50 pm
No they don't because he's a hondureno. Your written English is darn near perfect Schmo. It's hard to believe it's your second language. It'd be interesting to hear you speak some time.
My parents spoke English well, and I had a good education. I'm extremely lucky.

Frankly, I only complain about society and culture on this forum (I've tried others... this is the only one that's stuck). I was telling Jersey Girl the other day that in reality, my life is pretty damn good. My rants are all rooted in concern over what's happening in this country. But when I'm honest with myself, I have to admit I still love the US.

I'm not sure I'm really even complaining about Americans themselves as much as shared BS embedded in the culture. It's narratives and memes that damned annoy me more than the people who participate. The vast majority of Americans I meet seem like genuinely decent people.

I'm sure I spend too much time focusing on the extreme assholes.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:56 pm
You aren't aware that a large percentage of farm labor is made up of immigrants?
That is not what you said, let me quote you again.
Some Schmo wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 3:58 pm
There's no ____ way this guy's a doctor. I doubt he could land a job as a garbage collector. The real reason he's against immigrants is because he actually is in competition with them for jobs... picking lettuce or something. Makes more sense, anyway.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:59 pm
I can't tell you. This is yet another beautiful example of you reading something and superimposing your own crazy thoughts over what you've read to reach a fallacious conclusion.
That is what you do all the time! I am just giving you the same treatment. Nice try, but I rarely make fallacious conclusions when I quote the research. I am right about 95% of the time.
Some Schmo wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 4:59 pm
You made the claim. You explain the connection.
1. You implied that lettuce picking is inferior.
2. You generalized.
3. Most immigrants do not work in farms.

I am exaggerating and I am deliberately misreading your comment, you do it all the time.
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DoubtingThomas wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:24 pm
That is not what you said, let me quote you again.
Yeah, I know what I said. You tell me how that is racist.

It's (partly) commentary on how farm labor is underpaid, which I suspect might be partly due to farming businesses getting away with underpaying folks from other countries who haven't naturalized yet. Maybe if we gave these workers a path to citizenship, it would force higher wages, and it wouldn't be as much of a problem for everyone working in the industry. They wouldn't be paid like second-class citizens. Just a wild guess there.

But yes, I'm sure I'm being unknowingly racist somehow. Please explain.
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DoubtingThomas wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:29 pm
I am exaggerating and I am misreading everything like you do all the time.
Oh. Alrighty then. For some reason, I thought you were serious.

Carry on.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:33 pm
But yes, I'm sure I'm being unknowingly racist somehow. Please explain.
You generalized, stereotyped, and you implied that lettuce picking is something inferior. But I don't really see your comment as racist.
Some Schmo wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:14 pm
I'm sure I spend too much time focusing on the extreme assholes.

Remember when you said
Some Schmo wrote:
Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:57 pm
People predicting Drumpf is going to win this election remind me of the same types who predict Jesus will return some day.
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DoubtingThomas wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:43 pm
You generalized, stereotyped, and you implied that lettuce picking is something inferior.
What was the exact generalization? What was the exact stereotype?

Lettuce picking does indeed get you inferior wages. That is not to be confused with inferior or less noble work.
But I don't really see your comment as racist, I am not you.
True. You are not me. And yet, I don't see the comment as racist either, so I'm not sure what you're on about.
Remember when you said
Some Schmo wrote:
Tue Nov 01, 2016 12:57 pm
People predicting Drumpf is going to win this election remind me of the same types who predict Jesus will return some day.
No, but that's painful to read. It's good for me, but painful.

I told you I was a damned dumb ass. I make mistakes too, so I should know.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:51 pm
True. You are not me. And yet, I don't see the comment as racist either, so I'm not sure what you're on about.
I am just giving you the same treatment.
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DoubtingThomas wrote:
Thu Jun 04, 2020 5:52 pm
I am just giving you the same treatment.
But it's not the same. You're just making crap up.

It's more effective if you tell the truth. I liked you showing me that old quote, for instance. There's a good reminder there.
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