Did this really just happen?

[_Some Schmo]

This doesn't mean they wouldn't eagerly expose real dirt or nefarious behavior by their liberal opponents. Of course they would! But unless it is also corroborated by others less infamously dishonest than Veritas or O'Keefe, I'm not going to take it seriously!

The problem is that even if they were onto something real, they've lost all credibility. That's a broad problem for the right wing generally. They talk about teary-eyes liberals while they can't stop crying wolf and moaning out their grievances.

[_MeDotOrg]

Nameless Army Is Being Brought To Bear On D.C. Protesters

Federal law enforcement officers are operating on American streets without identification, which experts say breeds a culture of impunity.

WASHINGTON ― Just a few hundred feet north of the White House on Wednesday afternoon, armed agents of the federal government, dressed in a patchwork of colors and protective gear, stared down peaceful protesters demonstrating for Black lives. Yet what was perhaps most alarming was what was not visible on many of the officers: any insignia revealing their identity or even the name of the agency they work for.

...Critics say it also breeds government distrust and is reminiscent of authoritarian regimes.

If you're a prisoner of war, what information are you allowed to give? Name, rank and serial number. More than American soldiers are allowed to give American citizens in front of the White House.

If the idea of unidentified government forces attacking civilian protestors sounds like death squads in a South American banana republic, it's because that's exactly what it sounds like.

[_Gunnar]

This doesn't mean they wouldn't eagerly expose real dirt or nefarious behavior by their liberal opponents. Of course they would! But unless it is also corroborated by others less infamously dishonest than Veritas or O'Keefe, I'm not going to take it seriously!

The problem is that even if they were onto something real, they've lost all credibility. That's a broad problem for the right wing generally. They talk about teary-eyes liberals while they can't stop crying wolf and moaning out their grievances.

Exactly so!

[_Gunnar]

The problem is that even if they were onto something real, they've lost all credibility. That's a broad problem for the right wing generally. They talk about teary-eyes liberals while they can't stop crying wolf and moaning out their grievances.

Exactly so!

Ldsfaqs is fond of insisting that hard right conservatives are invariably right, and can do no evil or ever make mistakes, and claims or implies that liberals and/or Democrats can never do anything right or virtuous. Neither of those two extremes has ever been true of anyone. Neither liberals nor conservatives have a monopoly on either truth or error. No one is more likely to be fallible and even chronically mistaken than someone who claims to be infallible.

I have often maintained that we need both liberals and conservatives. Together they form a negative feedback loop that insures continuing progress and preventing stagnation, while, at the same time, preventing society from speeding out of control and flying off the rails.

[_Some Schmo]

I have often maintained that we need both liberals and conservatives. Together they form a negative feedback loop that insures continuing progress and preventing stagnation, while, at the same time, preventing society from speeding out of control and flying off the rails.

Absolutely. This country currently has no viable conservative party. They have taken eat, drink and be merry to a whole new level of death march.

[_moksha]

I wonder if Dan Peterson is still making excuses for this guy?

Dr. Peterson wants to see Trump out of office.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 85612.html
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... qus_thread

[_Gunnar]

I have often maintained that we need both liberals and conservatives. Together they form a negative feedback loop that insures continuing progress and preventing stagnation, while, at the same time, preventing society from speeding out of control and flying off the rails.

Absolutely. This country currently has no viable conservative party. They have taken eat, drink and be merry to a whole new level of death march.

It sure seems that way. There are still some somewhat reasonable conservatives available, like George Conway (Kellyanne's husband, ironically), Rick Wilson, Steve Schmidt and the other members of the Lincoln Project, but they are unfortunately (for the most part) not currently involved in prominent government decision making.

[_Some Schmo]

I wonder if Dan Peterson is still making excuses for this guy?

Dr. Peterson wants to see Trump out of office.

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... 85612.html
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... qus_thread

That's the first thing I've read of his in... I have no idea how long.

It's surreal to read something of his I agreed with that much. damned weird, really.

[_Some Schmo]

It sure seems that way. There are still some somewhat reasonable conservatives available, like George Conway (Kellyanne's husband, ironically), Rick Wilson, Steve Schmidt and the other members of the Lincoln Project, but they are unfortunately (for the most part) not currently involved in prominent government decision making.

I freaking love the Lincoln Project's political ads. They certainly can't hurt.

These guys are former strategists for the GOP. Good to have them fighting on the side of truth (and they do understand how to fight in politics). It's the only hope for the ultimate survival of the GOP.

[_Gunnar]

I certainly agree with Dr. Peterson's assessment of Trump:

Mr. Trump is not a conservative. He never has been. He is a nationalist and a wannabe autocrat, among many other negative things:

Trump is more than anything else, an opportunistic criminal hoping to enrich himself as much as possible from his Presidency, while at the same time insulating himself from any indictment or prosecution for his crimes.