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_MeDotOrg
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Re: Did this really just happen?

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Jersey Girl wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 6:59 pm
Icarus wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 5:43 pm
Trump says he hopes George Floyd 'looking down' and seeing today’s jobs numbers as 'a great day for him'

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... VlfhchQLLU
He is obscene.
I'm sure that in Trump's mind, George Floyd is drinking some Trump Vodka, pleased as punch that El Presidente sees the economy recovering. Yes, it is obscene, but it also shows the absolutely frightening disconnect between Donald Trump and reality. He had no idea how to confront a pandemic. He has no idea how to confront the racism that scars our country, or how to respond to the violent reactions that racism provokes. He has no idea how to mourn for George Floyd as a human being. If he reaches out to compromise, he's terrified of losing his base. His response is formed by other's opinions on Television. In this time of crisis and mourning, you see the stunted emotional development of the man.

All through the Trump administration, I've had the feeling that time has slowed down, that each week seems somehow longer than the previous week. There is a temptation to become weary and fatalistic. I look at what is happening with horror and detachment. We're like lobsters in a pot who think the water is just getting nice and toasty. I see what can potentially happen within myself. Becoming numb and insensitive is a fear for myself and people in general.

So when he utters the obscene observation that George Floyd is looking down, proud at the President's economic numbers, it's just another piece on the pile. The pile of obscenities gets bigger, but as it does, each individual obscenity seems smaller.
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MeDotOrg wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:06 pm
There is a temptation to become weary and fatalistic. I look at what is happening with horror and detachment. We're like lobsters in a pot who think the water is just getting nice and toasty. I see what can potentially happen within myself. Becoming numb and insensitive is a fear for myself and people in general.
I appreciate and agree with your assessment of his lack of emotional development and his inability to relate empathetically to virus victims, essential workers, those who have lost jobs and persons who made themselves witness the murder of George Floyd on camera for 10 minutes.

I know exactly what you are saying about the potential to become detached but can I tell you that over the past few days my own mindset has shifted dramatically to optimism? Prior to this, every time I listened to Trump make comment in public, I found myself regularly saying "Screw you" right out loud and to the screen. I don't feel that way right now. I will tell you what changed.

When I look at the crowds of protesters nationwide, I realize this is NOT the sixties type of Civil Rights protests. Why? There's at least half and half mix of Blacks and Whites marching, in some cases predominately Whites in certain parts of the country. There are protesters swelling the streets OVERSEAS for civil rights. THEN I listened to Al Sharpton's speech at Floyd's funeral and he noted the very same things!!! I admittedly don't care for Sharpton but crap, he's got a voice and I assume that people do pay attention to him.

On that count a lone this is markedly different from the sixties, MeDot. And yes, there are outlier groups inciting violence, I will give you that. And yes, the President is clearly ill equipped to deal with any of this in a socially proactive way because let's be honest, the man doesn't have a heart or a conscience with which to address any of this but the thing is...even going back to the Covid briefings, for once he put himself in front of the cameras instead of at rally's and has shown himself for what he is, deficiencies and self interest included. You have to have no damned brain not to see this.

I believe it was yesterday or last night when I viewed two things from Cory Booker. One was his passionate speech in response to Rand Paul who stopped the Anti-Lynching bill/law from going to Federal level. Had he has more than 2-3 minutes to respond during the debates, we would have laid eyes on a different Cory Booker than what we saw during those debates. I also listened to a brief interview with Booker and Stephen Colbert and from that, I became aware of the fact that he's proposing (or they are working on) a nationwide data base that logs in instances of police brutality. We didn't have one already?!?!?!?

Then there is the Lincoln Project folks that EA said isn't a powerful enough organization to do anything--but I am seeing it differently as Republicans are going to that very "side". And, the Republicans who still attempt to defend Trump make themselves look like increasingly inept, pathetic, immoral and corrupt puppets for Trump who have no back bone whatsoever.

You know who has the back bone? WE do.

If you stand back and take a look, the America that is protesting for Civil Rights this time isn't just doing it because they are Black. They coming out in droves because it is the thing to do right and like me, they are plainly sick and tired of this crap. Trump is getting push back and criticism from all sides. Mattis and Kelly have both spoken out--I say God bless them for that--and Mattis in particular with a strongly worded treatise which I am sure has resonated with not only civilians but with the military that Trump seeks to exploit.

Finally, there is this part which may seem but a small action, but I think it does make a strong statement. If it were not for 17-year-old Darnella Frazier (17!!!) filming the sadistic murder of George Floyd head on for 10 minutes, allowing herself to be traumatized in the process as she watched through the camera lens of her cell phone, we would NOT have realized the full and ugly impact of this heinous deed. Think about that, a 17 year old young woman, MeDot, stood there and filmed it all from start to finish. If that were me at age 17, I think I would have cut and run, then watched from afar. But NO, she had the courage and the insight to stand there and film it. Her video is the lengthy 10 minute clip we've all seen and that made all the difference between this being just another new report vs giving us the chance to watch it happen before our very eyes. She sacrificed her own mental health and physical safety to do that. God bless that girl, God bless her!

These are just a small number of observations and thoughts that changed my outlook completely over the past few days. Oh and not to mention the fact that Trump has got himself barricaded in the White House in spite of his swaggering about dominating communities. So the rat has finally trapped itself and by god, he finally got that wall, didn't he? And the same guy who pledged to drain the swamp has now built a virtual mote around the People's House to protect HIMSELF from the society he claims to love.

“F”. Him.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:38 pm
MeDotOrg wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 10:06 pm
There is a temptation to become weary and fatalistic. I look at what is happening with horror and detachment. We're like lobsters in a pot who think the water is just getting nice and toasty. I see what can potentially happen within myself. Becoming numb and insensitive is a fear for myself and people in general.
I appreciate and agree with your assessment of his lack of emotional development and his inability to relate empathetically to virus victims, essential workers, those who have lost jobs and persons who made themselves witness the murder of George Floyd on camera for 10 minutes.

I know exactly what you are saying about the potential to become detached but can I tell you that over the past few days my own mindset has shifted dramatically to optimism? Prior to this, every time I listened to Trump make comment in public, I found myself regularly saying "Screw you" right out loud and to the screen. I don't feel that way right now. I will tell you what changed.
I too, see signs of hope in Four Star Generals speaking out. Signs of hope in a demonstration today where whites outnumbered blacks 2-1. I see signs of hope when I see scenes of National Guard Troops hugging civilians and kneeling with them. I see signs of hope in Lisa Murkowski speaking out. It's a crack in the wall, but it's a beginning.

Is the sight of the Armed Forces of the United States, stripped of identification and insignia, standing guard in front of the White House, a 'bridge too far' for most Americans? You feel like Trump and his cohorts are desperately searching for their Reichstag Fire . They are looking for a pretext. I still have a fear that there are radical groups on the left and right in this country that would be willing to provide him with a spark. So I am heartened, as you are, by many of the positive things that are happening right now. But it's 151 days until the Presidential Election.

Every 4 years the ship of state pulls into port and we have an election. Since Lee's surrender at Appomattox Courthouse, Americans have faced the possibility of vote rigging and fraud in elections, but there has never been an incumbent that I thought was capable of jamming their finger on the scale quite the way Trump might.
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Huh. Reddit co-founder just stepped down and asked to be replaced by black human.

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Trump ain't gonna like this...

Justin Trudeau takes a knee at Black Lives Matter demonstration on Parliament Hill

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/us/justi ... index.html
The crowd had a moment of silence for almost nine minutes -- the amount of time former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin kept his knee pressed on Floyd's neck. During this silence, many took a knee, too.

Trudeau joined them.
Well done, sir. Leadership does exist.

It just doesn't live in the White House.
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Icarus wrote:
Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:42 am
Graphic video of 75 year old man being shoved to ground and immediately begins to bleed out of his ear.

https://Twitter.com/Alyssa_Milano/statu ... 93632?s=20
The entire Buffalo special unit has resigned in protest of 2 officers getting suspended for their role in this incident.

The police involved has summarized the incident as the person having slipped and fallen, so not only do they expect to be able to do this with impunity, the expect to be able to lie about it too.

(Nearly every single video involving police misconduct usually has a deceptive police report summarizing the events. It's standard protocol to lie in those circumstances. Always makes me wonder what's happened in the events there isn't video of.)

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/us/buffa ... index.html
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LAPD shot rubber bullet into the face of a disabled homeless man.

https://www.Facebook.com/photo?fbid=141 ... 9164917519
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Police are also beating and arresting legal observers. We're currently living in the dangerous police state right-wing militias were supposedly training to violently oppose, only it turns out in they end they're mostly on the side of tyranny.
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EAllusion wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:11 am
The entire Buffalo special unit has resigned in protest of 2 officers getting suspended for their role in this incident.
Hopefully, Buffalo City will do a better job in its officer recruitment to replace the outgoing 59 police gang members.
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