Did this really just happen?

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:43 am
I think antifa is just a pop term for leftist revolutionary movement at this point.

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They’re certainly in cahoots.
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Ooh. They have their own flag now.

https://mobile.Twitter.com/Plat_Bumper/ ... 3364127744

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Black police officer steps in and reprimands white officer who illicitly shoved a kneeling black protester to the ground.

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Calling it CHAZ is...huh.

Messaging is not a strength in this crowd. I assume they make their slogans to be intentionally provocative which works about none of the time.
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honorentheos wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:40 am
Messaging is not a strength in this crowd. I assume they make their slogans to be intentionally provocative which works about none of the time.
I'm not a fan of Defund the Police. The GOP punditry, in their typically obtuse way, is having a field day with that phrase.

I would prefer Slash Police Budget which is what I think they really mean.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:00 am
honorentheos wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:40 am
Messaging is not a strength in this crowd. I assume they make their slogans to be intentionally provocative which works about none of the time.
I'm not a fan of Defund the Police. The GOP punditry, in their typically obtuse way, is having a field day with that phrase.

I would prefer Slash Police Budget which is what I think they really mean.
I agree. Not sure there's a good way to say it but I thought the graphic above captured my views. But decommodify? Not any more clear than Defund.
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honorentheos wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:03 am
I agree. Not sure there's a good way to say it but I thought the graphic above captured my views. But decommodify? Not any more clear than Defund.
The interesting thing to me is that stuff like this is gaining traction at all. There is a serious re-imagining of society happening ubiquitously. It really is starting to feel like we are at the beginning of the kind of organic revolution Bernie couldn't consciously manufacture. I guess we'll see how long these protests last.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:43 am
I think antifa is just a pop term for leftist revolutionary movement at this point. They’re certainly in cahoots.

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I understand that you want to apply the term that way, but in the northwest where Antifa and Proud Boys have regular beat downs in Portland, Antifa is a group with a specific purpose — punching Nazis. I’ve seen no evidence of Antifa involvement by Antifa and I haven’t seen Antifa make any sort of statement about CHAZ. I mean, you can go all Humpty Dumpy if you want, but Anti-Facism is not synonymous with leftist revolutionary.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:58 am
Ooh. They have their own flag now.

https://mobile.Twitter.com/Plat_Bumper/ ... 3364127744

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Several people have suggested flags. But none are official because there’s no official person or organization who can designate what is official and what is not. My favorite post proclaims that anything goes “within reason.”
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