Another Cop, Another Knee on a Black Man's neck

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Another Cop, Another Knee on a Black Man's neck

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Another cop was filmed kneeling on the neck of a detainee in Sarasota Florida last month. Here are my key takeaways:

1. This proves the George Floyd case wasn't some anomaly.

2. It proves cops being complicit in such behavior is not confined to one department in Minnesota.

3. The police helicopter recorded the entire thing but an investigation into wrongdoing wasn't made until the public caught wind of it after a citizen shared a video from the ground on social media.

4. The first response to a cop's bad behavior is "coverup," until that no longer becomes possible.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/04/us/saras ... KT-AwVQFOo
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Re: Another Cop, Another Knee on a Black Man's neck

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Have you removed 911 from your cell phone yet? I wouldn't want you to be a victim of systemic racism.
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Re: Another Cop, Another Knee on a Black Man's neck

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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:17 am
Have you removed 911 from your cell phone yet? I wouldn't want you to be a victim of systemic racism.
I'm losing track trying to count the ways this post is both misinformed and downright dishonest. Was that supposed to be a joke?
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Again, I'm struck with how often the right's only strategy in any argument is to just f*u*c*king lie.

How good can your position be if all you do is lie?
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Unless you let police abuse and murder minorities with impunity, then you are not entitled to protections in a free society -

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Re: Another Cop, Another Knee on a Black Man's neck

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One of the things that should change is police policing police. All officers involved deaths should go straight to a citizens review board, with the power to refer cases to an independent prosecutor (one who doesn’t prosecute cases referred by the police). Bad behavior will continue as long as the police controls who gets to see evidence of bad behavior.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:21 am
I'm losing track trying to count the ways this post is both misinformed and downright dishonest. Was that supposed to be a joke?
Perhaps there was an article in the Klan Times that mistakenly listed 911 as the mark of the beast.
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moksha wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 7:29 am
Some Schmo wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 3:21 am
I'm losing track trying to count the ways this post is both misinformed and downright dishonest. Was that supposed to be a joke?
Perhaps there was an article in the Klan Times that mistakenly listed 911 as the mark of the beast.
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:30 am
One of the things that should change is police policing police. All officers involved deaths should go straight to a citizens review board, with the power to refer cases to an independent prosecutor (one who doesn’t prosecute cases referred by the police). Bad behavior will continue as long as the police controls who gets to see evidence of bad behavior.
This makes sense. Police shouldn't continue to police themselves. These incidences like the one in Florida continue to increase, seemingly, or are finally getting the attention sorely needed. I am sick and tired of hearing or seeing cops physically harm and/or kill the undeserving. Thank technology for bringing these incidences to light. Mandatory body cams, always on, controlled by a citizen's review board, should be the norm.

One other thing I would suggest is that laws restricting filming of police in action should be repealed or never enacted in the first place. It should be a crime for police to confiscate a cell phone from an innocent bystander.
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Re: Another Cop, Another Knee on a Black Man's neck

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Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:30 am
One of the things that should change is police policing police. All officers involved deaths should go straight to a citizens review board, with the power to refer cases to an independent prosecutor (one who doesn’t prosecute cases referred by the police). Bad behavior will continue as long as the police controls who gets to see evidence of bad behavior.
I heard an interesting story this weekend regarding a situation in Albuquerque. They had a review board that was supposed to act like a grand jury and refer cases for prosecution. But it ended up mostly working to protect officers.

What ultimately made a difference was having camera footage. Probable cause needed to move a case forward suddenly became apparent when the decisions being made were on film rather than being explained.

Here's the story:

It's the segment titled, Thick Blue Line.

https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/sn ... -blue-line
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