A recent face-plant posting of mine

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The part that is concerning to me is, it seems the players-that-be are pushing a - one size fits all scenario. See, if one were to put a one to ten scale on it, as to racism in the forces, 1 being minimal racism, 10 being high. I'd guess Eugene OR to be a one. Portland, San Fran., to be an under 5. New York, 8. Atlanta, 11.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 1:44 pm
EAllusion wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:03 am
Donald Trump is overwhelmingly popular among law enforcement and polls of police officers show support of far right political views is quite common.
If that's true, it's little wonder why we need police reform in this country. You can't be a fan of Trump and the law at the same time.
Interestingly, this isn't true of the US military. While the military disproportionately draws in conservatives, with respect to Trump, Republicans have actually lost a little ground. Military approval of Trump is close to his general public approval, which is to say, not good.
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Chap wrote:
ajax18 wrote:I think you know enough to realize you're never going to get a nonpartisan answer to that question.
Oh. Aren't there, like, graphs and things?

I mean, surely the idea of 'the economy booming' must refer to something objective like gross domestic product, employment, or whatever? It's not just some kind of 'Gee! I sure feel like the economy is booming!' kind of thing, is it?
With respect, I think you might've misinterpreted the original question. Sure, you're absolutely right that graphs, data, and facts can show whether or not the economy is, or was, booming. But the original question was whether Trump was responsible for it, however--which might be a little more partisan, as was ajax18's point.
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Trend lines give some insight to an answer.

Many economic indicators tracked essentially the same trend for several years before Trump took office when compared to three years after he took office. I don’t think that Trump can claim to be ‘responsible’ for the trend itself so much as claim that he didn’t disrupt it.

Since then, things have changed a bit.
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This one didn't get much response. I thought it was a fairly good point. Ah well.

So, during WWII, the allies purposefully did not seek to assassinate Adolf Hitler, because as Germany's commander-in-chief he was a great asset to the allies, Because he was a blundering idiot. So, with that in mind, I wonder why Russia, and according to American intelligence agencies, during this election cycle also China and Iran are meddling in our elections in favor of the Don? Is it because Russia, China and Iran are attempting to look out for the best interest of the American people? Yeah, that's probably it. Or...
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Dantana wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 1:46 am
This one didn't get much response. I thought it was a fairly good point. Ah well.

So, during WWII, the allies purposefully did not seek to assassinate Adolf Hitler, because as Germany's commander-in-chief he was a great asset to the allies, Because he was a blundering idiot. So, with that in mind, I wonder why Russia, and according to American intelligence agencies, during this election cycle also China and Iran are meddling in our elections in favor of the Don? Is it because Russia, China and Iran are attempting to look out for the best interest of the American people? Yeah, that's probably it. Or...
I am going to assume you believe what you are claiming here to be factual and that your logic is sound; which begs the question - do you manage to function in this world without direct adult supervision?
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Well, it's certainly possible that the "allies did not seek to assassinate Hitler" is just lore, but I don't think there is any question that his military strategy skills were sub-par. I just used it as it was a good lead in to my post theme. Anyway, what's your thoughts on why Russia prefers Trump?
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Why Putin prefers that Trump wins the election is a very good question indeed. I'm quite sure that we can pretty much guarantee that it is not because Putin thinks that Trump is the best leader America could have chosen for itself. Putin knows more than anybody how badly world respect, admiration and trust in US leadership, competence and reliability has eroded since Trump's election. We have become both a pariah and laughingstock even to some of what were our most trusting and valuable allies. This certainly warmed the cockles of Putin's heart, and was arguably precisely what he hoped to engineer by interfering in our elections on Trump's behalf, whether or not there was deliberate, conscious collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign. It is now strongly questionable whether we still remain the de factor leader of the free world. Germany now seems to have a stronger claim on that now than we do. It may take a very long time, if ever, before we fully regain the trust, respect and prestige we formerly enjoyed from even our staunchest allies.
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Dantana wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:48 am
Anyway, what's your thoughts on why Russia prefers Trump?
Because Trump is easily manipulated.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 7:03 am
Dantana wrote:
Sun Aug 30, 2020 3:48 am
Anyway, what's your thoughts on why Russia prefers Trump?
Because Trump is easily manipulated.
That much is certainly true!
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