What makes Trump a Fascist?

[_cwald]

You're buying this ****, cinepro?

Yeah. Shocking

[_EAllusion]

Yeah, you can't facepalm hard enough at the idea that Trump doesn't have a pre-modernist message because he uses helicopters. Because 1930's Europe was all about rejecting modern technology, right? This isn't surprising for Scott Adams. It is quite surprising for Cinepro to go along with it.

[_cinepro]

Yeah, you can't facepalm hard enough at the idea that Trump doesn't have a pre-modernist message because he uses helicopters. Because 1930's Europe was all about rejecting modern technology, right? This isn't surprising for Scott Adams. It is quite surprising for Cinepro to go along with it.

Fair enough. Anyone who actually thinks Trump has fascist tendencies, please make some predictions in this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=44320

Let's see what happens over the next four years to bear this out.

[_The CCC]

The elites thought they could control the NAZIS too. He proved them wrong.

[_subgenius]

The elites thought they could control the NAZIS too. He proved them wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

For those playing along at home, this is just another in a long list of CCC's association fallacies.

[_The CCC]

Peace(Appeasement) in our times.

[_EAllusion]

I revisited a few threads from this era now given just how apparent Trumpism is fascist in nature in the present. The naïveté of some of the posts took me aback.

Anyway, here's a good New York Review of Books article on the matter:

https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2020/06/2 ... ened-here/

[_EAllusion]

It didn't make it into my comments on fascism at the time, but Umberto Eco once commented that fascists both see the enemy as a powerful, constant dire threat to the people, but also contemptuously weak and easily defeated. "We are under serious threat from X, who are complete wusses." Watching this exact dynamic play out in recent news over and over made me perk up a bit.

[_Some Schmo]

I don't remember this thread, so I ended up reading that whole Scott Adams post (I was smarter the first time, apparently).

I'm amazed anyone might be influenced by that crap. His responses to each point were DT-level misinterpretation of the written word. Unbelievable.

I wonder what a smart Trump supporter would sound like. I can't imagine it. The closest I can come is Lex Luthor.

[Guest]

I revisited a few threads from this era now given just how apparent Trumpism is fascist in nature in the present. The naïvété of some of the posts took me aback.

Anyway, here's a good New York Review of Books article on the matter:

https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2020/06/2 ... ened-here/

It is both uncanny and frightening how closely the narrative of that book matches the rise of Trump and his behavior since his election to office. It makes it all the more clear that he really does aspire to be an absolute dictator like Kim Jung Un, Hitler, Putin, Xi Jinping and Erdogan. I have no doubt that his expressed envy and admiration for them is more sincerity than mere tongue-in-cheek. Fortunately, it is becoming increasingly obvious that the greatest impediment to his achieving that goal is his own laughable incompetence and ignorance.

The mere fact that from the beginning of his campaign for the Presidency he declared the media and the free press the enemy of the people, just like Hitler's henchman Goebbels did at the beginning of their rise to power, was a giant red warning flag to me from the start. I fail to understand how anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of 20th Century history could have failed to see and be alarmed by that. I guess that bigots of all sorts are fundamentally predisposed to eagerly accept and, perhaps, even seek out some leader, however dictatorial, eager to endorse their bigoted views and enforce them against others.