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White Republican racists deface WWII memorial in Charlotte:

https://www.waff.com/2020/06/22/world-w ... RBHNpCO_aY

BLM remembers “the Peruvian prison massacres of 1986, when 224 people died in a series of riots”? Don’t let the Hammaer and Sickle fool you. This was clearly a false flag operation perpetrated by the Proud Boys to sow discord amongst Carolinians in order to kick off the boogaloo.

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"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
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Hard to imagine why black people would feel the police are targeting them...

3 North Carolina police officers fired after conversation about 'slaughtering' Black people and the need for a second Civil War

“We are just going to go out and start slaughtering them niggers. I can’t wait. God, I can’t wait.”
"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
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The best part of that story is the article that referred to this as, "inappropriate comments." Just calling for a genocidal race war. Woopsiedoodle.
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SHAUN KING: A Private Law Enforcement Group on Facebook is Literally Plotting to Kill Me

On this past Tuesday morning I received a very alarming text message from a friend. Inside of a private Facebook group for California Law Enforcement Officers, members of the group were openly plotting and planning my assassination.

Sadly, I receive death threats daily. It’s been that for years, but they are mainly from anonymous strangers and seem more designed to intimidate me and my family than they appear to be imminent threats of physical harm. We take them all seriously, but what we found in this private Facebook group is altogether different. These were men and women, in a private group that they had no idea I’d ever see, using their real names and identities, openly plotting to kill me and organizing each other to execute it.

Who do you call to report the misconduct of current or retired law enforcement officers? Because I lack confidence in any law enforcement system to handle this, I feel the burden to release this publicly for my own safety and for the safety of my family.
Below I will include the screenshots and details of the threats.

It started with retired Long Beach Police officer Laura Tartaglione saying “I think California needs to start putting a team together of retired military, police, and NRA Members. These criminals that the Democrats created need to be stopped.”

Roy Brokaw then says, “I’m with you brothers and sisters for justice. And I’ll be there. Tell me when and where. Does anyone know where this Shaun King can be found?”

Chris Sanford then says, “Toss this guy from a helicopter.

Jerry De Rosa, a retired LAPD officer, then says “Need a sniper.” As you will see, at the time, two people gave that a thumbs up.”

John Houchens posted, “Shaun King needs to be put down.”

Mark McAdams then posted, “Need to start cutting the head off the snake so to speak.

Jeffrey Garcia, also of the Long Beach Police Department, then said, “I am ready to rock and roll — let’s get it going boys and girls. Time for a #6.” California Law Enforcement told me that this is often code for a long distance operation.

Retired Long Beach Police Officer Laura Tartaglione then says, “organize it Jeff.”

Jefffrey Garcia responds, “Roger that Laura.”

Billy Dishman then writes, “Let’s get it going. I’m in.”

Kevin Fitzgerald then posted, “So, he’s a Marxist and what’s the rule for a communist? Kill a commie for mommy…better dead than red…And so it begins.

Gary Young then says “Remember at my age life in prison is not a deterrent.”

Henry Martinez, posting a picture of a man with a gun, then says, “Yes, some of us may be old, but we still have a sharp eye and a steady hand… and some of these Anti Americans need to be set straight!”

Jeffrey Garcia then replies, “Damn straight Henry. We need you. You wanna sign up?”

Jim Bohannaon Lugenbeel then posted, “I recommend retro active birth control, or post birth abortion, whatever you wanna call it.”

I could post more. Since Tuesday, the thread grew. We thought this was an isolated incident, but since this, we’ve seen deaths threats against me spread all over the country in other private groups, on dozens of public pages, on conservative blogs, and more.

If you have any additional information on any other credible threats, please send the details confidentially to information@grassrootslaw.org.
"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
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Approximately 99% of jaywalking citations issued by police in New York City were given to Black and Latino people. I'm going to go out on limb and predict that Black and Latino people weren't committing 99% of jaywalking in NYC.

https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2020/06/25/ ... ins-steam/
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(From the times I've been in Manhattan, I'd think it'd be more efficient to just ticket people for not jaywalking.)
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Icarus wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:49 pm
Hard to imagine why black people would feel the police are targeting them...

3 North Carolina police officers fired after conversation about 'slaughtering' Black people and the need for a second Civil War

“We are just going to go out and start slaughtering them n___s. I can’t wait. God, I can’t wait.”
EAllusion wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:52 pm
The best part of that story is the article that referred to this as, "inappropriate comments." Just calling for a genocidal race war. Woopsiedoodle.
Wilmington Police Chief Donny Williams said Cpl. Jessie Moore and officers James Gilmore and Kevin Piner would be fired for misconduct after an internal investigation “uncovered extensive violations” of the department's policies, including its standard of conduct and use of appropriate language.

The department also released a document containing a detailed summary of the investigation.

“Why are we releasing this information this way and at this time? Because it is the right thing to do,” Williams said. “Normally, personnel laws allow only a very small amount of information to be made public. However, in exceptional cases, when it is essential to maintain public confidence in the administration of the City and the Police Department, more information may be released.

“This is the most exceptional and difficult case I have encountered in my career," he added. "We must establish new reforms for policing here at home and throughout this country."


In the internal investigation report linked in the article, the description used is, "extremely racist comments" which were flagged by a person performing a standard audit review. The numbered standards they are cited for violating when terminated do include "Use of Inappropriate Speech" as well as violating codes of conduct. But at no point do you find anyone internal to the investigation or even the reporting downplay what they were doing as merely making "inappropriate comments." Unless you were referring to a different article from the one Icarus linked?
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honorentheos wrote:
Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:20 am
Icarus wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:49 pm
Hard to imagine why black people would feel the police are targeting them...

3 North Carolina police officers fired after conversation about 'slaughtering' Black people and the need for a second Civil War

“We are just going to go out and start slaughtering them n___s. I can’t wait. God, I can’t wait.”
EAllusion wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:52 pm
The best part of that story is the article that referred to this as, "inappropriate comments." Just calling for a genocidal race war. Woopsiedoodle.
Wilmington Police Chief Donny Williams said Cpl. Jessie Moore and officers James Gilmore and Kevin Piner would be fired for misconduct after an internal investigation “uncovered extensive violations” of the department's policies, including its standard of conduct and use of appropriate language.

The department also released a document containing a detailed summary of the investigation.

“Why are we releasing this information this way and at this time? Because it is the right thing to do,” Williams said. “Normally, personnel laws allow only a very small amount of information to be made public. However, in exceptional cases, when it is essential to maintain public confidence in the administration of the City and the Police Department, more information may be released.

“This is the most exceptional and difficult case I have encountered in my career," he added. "We must establish new reforms for policing here at home and throughout this country."


In the internal investigation report linked in the article, the description used is, "extremely racist comments" which were flagged by a person performing a standard audit review. The numbered standards they are cited for violating when terminated do include "Use of Inappropriate Speech" as well as violating codes of conduct. But at no point do you find anyone internal to the investigation or even the reporting downplay what they were doing as merely making "inappropriate comments." Unless you were referring to a different article from the one Icarus linked?
I read a different article than the one Icarus linked that received a fair amount of notoriety for its headline referring to the officers being termed for "inappropriate comments." I was referring to the news story about that news story. Other news stories seem to have reacted to that negative news story about media failure by emphasizing the racism, abandoning the "racially charged" trope for once.

ETA: This is the one:

https://Twitter.com/theobserver/status/ ... 4285359105

It's the local paper generating the original reporting. They rewrote their story in response to criticism and apologized:

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/ ... 79512.html
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That Twitter headline is pretty bad. It's worse if the fact they show it was updated yesterday was to rewrite it but don't acknowledge the reasons. That's a story in itself.

There's a universe where one might chalk the lead use of "inappropriate" up to an inexperienced reporter attempting to use a synonym rather than restate the wording of the standards they were cited for violating. But that means they dumped the story on an inexperienced reporter to cover and the editor couldn't be bothered. So not exactly better.
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