Forget Antifa - the real danger is from the Fa

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I also think it's worth pointing out that when the Confederates realized they could not carry on their second war of independence with the more populated and industrialized northern states, the lower ranking generals proposed that they carry on their fight in a guerrilla campaign. General Lee refused stating that this was not honorable.

I'm not sure how you've cooked the data on this vast network of right wing terrorism. Are you counting Islam as right wing? Nobody is scared of violence and the violence is minimal. I think your going to see more political warfare where more people are hired and fired based upon political ideology. This could bring on a self segregation extensive enough that we might see a bloodless revolution and split of the country. But I doubt that the powers that be are going to allow it. Someone ultimately has to do the work and pay the bills and it's not going to be the people who spend their days marching and protesting.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 4:20 pm
I agree Right is out of control. It's so flagrant and so obvious, and we've spent so much time on this forum pointing it out I might as well point to the sky and say, "There's the air."
Good. The point of my thread was to put a solid foundation of quantitative facts under that.

The well-armed, organised and hate-crazed racist right are by far the largest domestic terror threat to the USA.

No-one shares responsibility with the boogaloo boys and their comrades for that fact.
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I don’t think you have to worry about the Right at the moment:

https://ibb.co/D1LTy9z

Their fearless leader is busy.

- Doc
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ajax18 wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:04 pm
We don't know in most cases who these people were, so chalking it up to the "hard left" is presumptuous.
I doubt your side wants to know who these people are unless you can find a case where it was someone on the right.
Many of them have been identified, and they're almost always Right Wing. This isn't some theory or issue of denial. You would believe Leftists are the ones doing it because you are an uneducated moron who thinks Rush Limbaugh and Brietbart are sources for information. The jig is up. FOX assereted ANTIFA from the start and they've been eating crow ever since. And now here you are accusing the people with brains for being naïve about the "true" identities.
"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
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We've had past discussions on the board pointing out that right-wing, white nationalist violence accounts for more deaths post-9/11 than religious-based terror attacks.

Here's another article on it:

https://www.newamerica.org/in-depth/ter ... tes-today/

The table in it updates as new attacks happen. For Ajax, it currently has the number of people killed by right-wing vs. Jihadi at 112 compared to 107.

It's worth noting the single deadliest event is missing (the Vegas concert shooting) because no one knows what motivated Paddock. That's 58 victims of a terror attack whose motive could be nothing more than a sociopath fed up with life and wanting to break a record on his way out. Put on the timeline it would make his isolated motives third on the list.
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ajax18 wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:24 pm
Right now I'd be happy with a right leaning alternative to Twitter and Facebook. The left has always been very good at controlling the media and the narrative. As the government starts to crack down on anything posted right of center while fanning the flames of leftist protest, we may see some violence but I don't think the right will ever be capable of putting on a civil war. So the left is probably safe in thinking they can shut down dissenting opinions and use their superior wealth and deep state connections to do it.

If we get our jobs taken away again after watching social distancing go out the window and become a nonpriority during the protests, the hypocrisy may be too great tolerate. But even then I don't see people on the right having the power or funds to do much about it. So chill out Chap your Stalinist Marxist state is safe.
You already had Gab Ajax.
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ajax18 wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:41 pm
I'm not sure how you've cooked the data on this vast network of right wing terrorism. Are you counting Islam as right wing
Nope. Religious motivated stuff is a separate category of the four included in the analysis ... don't you remember reading this?
The report I quoted above wrote: Overall, this analysis divides terrorism into four broad categories: right-wing, left-wing, religious, and ethnonationalist.5 To be clear, terms like right-wing and left-wing terrorism do not—in any way—correspond to mainstream political parties in the United States, such as the Republican and Democratic parties, which eschew terrorism. Instead, terrorism is orchestrated by a small minority of extremists.

First, right-wing terrorism refers to the use or threat of violence by sub-national or non-state entities whose goals may include racial or ethnic supremacy; opposition to government authority; anger at women, including from the incel (“involuntary celibate”) movement; and outrage against certain policies, such as abortion.6 This analysis uses the term “right-wing terrorism” rather than “racially- and ethnically-motivated violent extremism,” or REMVE, which is used by some in the U.S. government.7 Second, left-wing terrorism involves the use or threat of violence by sub-national or non-state entities that oppose capitalism, imperialism, and colonialism; pursue environmental or animal rights issues; espouse pro-communist or pro-socialist beliefs; or support a decentralized social and political system such as anarchism. Third, religious terrorism includes violence in support of a faith-based belief system, such as Islam, Judaism, Christianity, and Hinduism, among many others. As highlighted in the next section, the primary threat from religious terrorists comes from Salafi-jihadists inspired by the Islamic State and al-Qaeda. Fourth, ethnonationalist terrorism refers to violence in support of ethnic or nationalist goals—often struggles of self-determination and separatism along ethnic or nationalist lines.
I'm glad you are interested in looking at the methodology of this research. I've given you a link so you can download the relevant document. Happy reading!
Chap wrote:
Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:16 pm
The methodology used to gather data for this report is in a document that can be downloaded here:

https://csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws. ... y_v3_0.pdf
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ajax interested in reading something not published by Brietbart or Daily Wire?

Right. I guarantee you that at some future point in time he's going to repeat the same crap above while acting like he's never been presented evidence to the contrary. Its his MO.
"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
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Icarus wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:53 pm
Ajax interested in reading something not published by Brietbart or Daily Wire?
Oh well. Toujours la politesse, don'tcha know, old bean? Must make an effort.
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Icarus wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:53 pm
Right. I guarantee you that at some future point in time he's going to repeat the same ____ above while acting like he's never been presented evidence to the contrary. Its his MO.
This is mostly true, except he won't be acting. When he's presented with evidence to the contrary, his lizard brain kicks in and knows to ignore it like the plague. It's as though he's never seen it at all.

It's important to remember, he's not a doctor. I refuse to believe it could be that easy to become an MD in the US.
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