My Interview with Brian Hauglid is Up!

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Kishkumen wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:16 pm
We are probably looking at Will Schryver as the sender. He is allied with Gee and he really dislikes both Hauglid and MormonDiscussions.com. He loved the acronym GSTP.
If it is not to pornographic to write, what is the full meaning of this Schryverian acronym?
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Dan Vogel wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 2:41 am
I listened to the whole interview and found Brian's discussion of his relationship with Gee interesting and sad. I'm reading his new essay on the Abraham material now.
I will be interested to know what you think of the essay, Dan.
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Another possibility is Young Smoot. The lad who was really into mixing it up and making fun of critics. He was a friend of Gee and Peterson. He went off to study Egyptology and then decided against pursuing a PhD in the subject, if memory serves. He is probably also familiar with the term GSTP.
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Look people, if DCP didn't write the email then someone did.

I wonder . . . .

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Shulem wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:55 pm
Look people, if DCP didn't write the email then someone did.

I wonder . . . .

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Well, I don't think it really matters, does it? Everyone who spent a lot of time playing junior inquisitor and used the power of the Church to make fellow Mormons feel marginalized in the name of "protecting the Kingdom" is more or less responsible for a culture in which this kind of tattling, finger-pointing, and abuse thrives. The question is really what we do about it when we recognize our part in the problem. Some people continue to tattle, accuse, and abuse. Others choose to stop and even call out this kind of destructive behavior.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 3:38 pm
Another possibility is Young Smoot. The lad who was really into mixing it up and making fun of critics. He was a friend of Gee and Peterson. He went off to study Egyptology and then decided against pursuing a Ph.D. in the subject, if memory serves. He is probably also familiar with the term GSTP.
Good observations, Reverend. Smoot is a strong candidate, in my opinion. He hasn't updated his blog since January. My guess is that, instead, he's been pouring all his energy into the "Neville Nevill Land" blog, which seemingly gets updates almost every day.

As a sidenote: if he doesn't get the PhD, that is going to pose a problem for him in all sorts of ways.
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Dr Moore wrote:
Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:54 am
It seems pretty clear that Dr. Peterson denies having sent the email or called local authorities to come down on Brian. Why is it still a debate?
This is how I see it.

1- We know that somebody informed the SCMC committee (or its contemporary equivalent) about what Hauglid said in the JSP volume, which resulted in Hauglid having to answer to his bishop.

2- Hauglid indicates that doing this is the 'MO' of the usual suspects.

3- We know somebody informed Gee about the podcast and its announcement here.

4- We know Gee took it upon himself to bring this to the attention of BYU.

Peterson doesn't indicate whether he knows who ratted on Hauglid to the SCMC.

Peterson says that he personally doesn't rat out people, but doesn't address Hauglid's acquisition that doing this is in fact their MO. Does Peterson know who informed the SCMC? Heck, did Peterson delegate it to somebody else?

Peterson does NOT deny that he emailed Gee about it (although personally I'm inclined to I suspect it was Schryver). Assuming it was Schryver, how did he find out? Does he monitor this place, or did somebody like Peterson mention it to him?

Peterson says he didn't attempt to interfere with anybody's employment. So what? We already know it was Gee who did this.

From my seat, Peterson's denials are so specific and evasive, it is hard to imagine that he is telling the whole truth about this. He doesn't say whether he knows anything about who informed the SCMC, nor does he say whether he knows who informed Gee. And he doesn't say whether he condones Gee's actions or knew about them ahead of time.

I don't necessarily think Peterson is lying, but I do think his comments need to be cross-examined and should not bectaken at face value.
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Wonder what the people at the Church Office Building thought about a member of the Joseph Smith Papers project getting Church discipline invoked on him as retribution for Professors Gee and Muhlestein not being picked to lead that project? It seems to be akin to being "SWATTED" by some vindictive teenage gameplayer who is angry for losing a game. Where did those halcyon days go when BYU professors could simply resort to fisticuffs to resolve a dispute?
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[quote=moksha]Where did those halcyon days go when BYU professors could simply resort to fisticuffs to resolve a dispute?[/quote]

Can you point me to a thread or post where this was discussed? It'd be fun to read about it.

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