Quite interesting. "SeN" announced today that a new article appeared on the "Interpreter" website, and yet there is no mention whatsoever of the role that Wyatt and/or Lindsay played in overseeing the publication. How hard is it to simply say, "thank you"?
Meanwhile, Midgley is snarling with rage over this rather innocuous quip from Moksha:
Moksha wrote:Never heard of Mormanity before but it looks interesting. I had to Google it. Jeff Lindsay, the blog manager, was getting quite a bit of praise the other day on another board that I frequent.
Midgley wrote:If Moksha were not wholly busy sneering on sic et non at the faith of Latter-day Saints, he would have been very familiar with Jeff Lindsay. It would also have helped him immensely if he actually paid some attention to the contents of Professor Peterson's blog, since he had rather frequently mentioned Jeff Lindsay. Moky Moksha would have discovered that Jeffrey Dean Lindsay is a Vice President of the Interpreter Foundation. He has, for good reasons "recently returned to the United States after almost 9 years in Shanghai, China. Jeff has been providing online materials defending the LDS faith for over twenty years, primarily at JeffLindsay.com and http://mormanity.blogspot.com.
Jeff has a PhD in chemical engineering from BYU and is a US patent agent. He is currently head of R&D and IP for a US consumer product startup, Lume Deodorant. In China he was the Head of Intellectual Property for Asia Pulp and Paper, one of the world’s largest forest product companies. Since 2015, Jeff has been recognized as a leading IP strategist by Intellectual Asset Magazine based on peer input. He is also lead author of Conquering Innovation Fatigue (John Wiley & Sons, 2009). Jeff served a mission in the German speaking Switzerland Zurich Mission. He and his wife Kendra are the parents of four boys and have eleven grandchildren.
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This would appear to be yet another slap in the face to Allen Wyatt. What are the odds that this will ultimately contribute to him leaving the Church?
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
They banned me over at sic et non and it is a clever banning. Kudos to Dr. P and his fellow cheerleaders. If I post over there, it appears like I am posting to me. However, when I sign out, none of my posts appear. Of course Dr. P will claim it is Patheos, but, I beg to differ. Great job, Dr. P.
"Religion is about providing human community in the guise of solving problems that don’t exist or failing to solve problems that do and seeking to reconcile these contradictions and conceal the failures in bogus explanations otherwise known as theology." - Kishkumen
I guess they can't call you "self-Exiled" after this heavy-handed moderator move.
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.
LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
The Proprietor went into a big tailspin recently over noel educating them on the sharpshooter fallacy. After noel took exception to being called a name, It was declared:
"Perhaps it might have helped had you not insinuated that we're blithering idiots."
Ha. Actually, the insinuation came immediately upon his own promotion of Gee's article, "The odds of Joseph Smith guessing the names correctly is astronomical."
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.
LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
It seems to me that there are at least a couple of ways of interpreting these latest (and seemingly much more aggressive) bannings. The first is that "SeN" and its proprietor are dancing on the ends of Dr. Moore's strings. Dr. Moore offers the promise of donations, and suddenly, people are banned! That is apparently the only way that the Mopologists can fulfill the terms of their agreement with Dr. Moore, who clearly wields enormous power over them. Perhaps Dr. Moore should insist that either Kiwi or Midgley get banned, too. (Actually, where has Kiwi been lately? Maybe he was banned as well?)
The other interpretation is the old-school, Occam's Razor interpretation, which is that the Mopologists simply cannot deal with critics. And we've always known that that was true.
So, maybe this is a case of a "distinction without a difference"?
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
The Proprietor went into a big tailspin recently over noel educating them on the sharpshooter fallacy. After noel took exception to being called a name, It was declared:
"Perhaps it might have helped had you not insinuated that we're blithering idiots."
Ha. Actually, the insinuation came immediately upon his own promotion of Gee's article, "The odds of Joseph Smith guessing the names correctly is astronomical."
Good point, Dean Robbers. A solid peer review process would have caught this. Luckily, now that Allen Wyatt has been kicked down a notch or two, Bro. Lindsay will ensure that nothing like this ever stains the web pages of "Mormon Interpreter" ever again. (If DCP wants good peer review, why doesn't he oversee it himself?)
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
"This would appear to be yet another slap in the face to Allen Wyatt. What are the odds that this will ultimately contribute to him leaving the Church?"
You never know. What's striking is that several people associated with Interpreter have left the Church. The "astronomical odds" arguments didn't convince them I guess.
I tend to think doubt rages in the mind of many apologists. Which also explains why they have to mass-ban critics now and again.
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.
LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
It seems to me that there are at least a couple of ways of interpreting these latest (and seemingly much more aggressive) bannings. The first is that "SeN" and its proprietor are dancing on the ends of Dr. Moore's strings. Dr. Moore offers the promise of donations, and suddenly, people are banned! That is apparently the only way that the Mopologists can fulfill the terms of their agreement with Dr. Moore, who clearly wields enormous power over them. Perhaps Dr. Moore should insist that either Kiwi or Midgley get banned, too. (Actually, where has Kiwi been lately? Maybe he was banned as well?)
The other interpretation is the old-school, Occam's Razor interpretation, which is that the Mopologists simply cannot deal with critics. And we've always known that that was true.
So, maybe this is a case of a "distinction without a difference"?
I side with the Occam's Razor interpretation. They cannot handle critics. They are magicians trying to fool an ever questioning crowd. The internet dissects their tricks and makes them open to all to see. People are progressively looking behind the curtain and realizing the supposed wizards are just ordinary. Soon their PhD's will be meaningless, too, if not already. So, what else can they do but ban the critic?
"Religion is about providing human community in the guise of solving problems that don’t exist or failing to solve problems that do and seeking to reconcile these contradictions and conceal the failures in bogus explanations otherwise known as theology." - Kishkumen
