Sure Themis, but your comment is misleading. Scratch is a student of the apologists. He would probably criticize little to none many well-known believers publicly for the same thing, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't have a problem with it. That the media doesn't put a story up for every American who does the same bad thing Trump does, doesn't make them hypocritical. If they hold a double-standard to different presidents, then that would be concerning. Likewise, if an apologist rose to notoriety and took the movement in the direction Prof. Scratch approved of, but then went on a string of vacations during coronavirus and he turned a blind eye, then that would be a problem.
I think he is being unduly harsh without enough information on his activities. I just doubt a little he would think the same of someone else. Trump does a crap load of bad things, but those who spend their much of their time attacking him usually will attack Trump on even the small things they wouldn't care about if someone else did the same. We sometimes get carried away with those we view as the enemy and I think that is what is going on here.
Hold the phone - RV? Hotel with room service and and kitchen.
Recreational vehicle. It can allow you to bring your home with you, which means one does not have to stay in a hotel.
What it comes down to for me is what does "taking it seriously" mean to Dr. P? He is a public figure with followers and so has a responsibility to explain his actions. He has had many blog posts excoriating people for not "taking covid-19 seriously," quoting Sam LeFevre, the Utah head of epidemiology, approving Mr. LeFevre's comments and disagreeing with those who give a little push back, equating them with conspiracy theorists. This would seem to put Dr. P on the end of the spectrum of those who wouldn't want to venture out to the rockies in an RV. Yet he is doing so, publicly. Is this like the story of Joseph Smith giving a sermon on the word of wisdom, then deliberately riding down the middle of the street smoking a cigar? Is the passive aggressive Mormon showing his head here? Is this being done publicly to bring him attention along the lines of his victimology narrative he loves, knowing there would be a reaction here? Or is this within the circle of "taking it seriously" for Dr. P?
Dr. P, since you won't allow me to ask you this question on your blog, please let us know your thinking. You are in the public arena, have assumed a leadership role, and owe your acolytes, at least, an explanation of how a vacation corresponds to "taking this seriously." Vacationing seems to be at odds with your prior posts that dig at some of the Trump supporters that read your blog who aren't "taking this seriously." So, please explain.
"Religion is about providing human community in the guise of solving problems that don’t exist or failing to solve problems that do and seeking to reconcile these contradictions and conceal the failures in bogus explanations otherwise known as theology." - Kishkumen
"Recreational vehicle. It can allow you to bring your home with you, which means one does not have to stay in a hotel."
Is there evidence he''s utilizing an RV for this trip? Pandemic concerns aside, I'll be impressed if he's touring in an RV. I know guys with RVs, and they are a hell of a lot of work. If he's capable of the effort required to keep up an RV, even if it's rented and he's just keeping it clean and able to drive it and know what to watch for should it have a problem, then I'd be a little bit impressed.
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.
LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
"Recreational vehicle. It can allow you to bring your home with you, which means one does not have to stay in a hotel."
Is there evidence he''s utilizing an RV for this trip? Pandemic concerns aside, I'll be impressed if he's touring in an RV. I know guys with RVs, and they are a hell of a lot of work. If he's capable of the effort required to keep up an RV, even if it's rented and he's just keeping it clean and able to drive it and know what to watch for should it have a problem, then I'd be a little bit impressed.
If Professor Peterson was using an RV, and if he proves that this was the case (visual evidence: i.e., a photo of him standing outside the RV, plus another of him at the wheel), then I will publicly apologize for criticizing him on this matter. Like Dr. Robbers, I very much doubt that he's an "RV guy." Plus, look at this comment of his from earlier, about the fox: "Not sixty seconds later, he loped right past the car." I grant that it's possible that, by "car" he actually meant "RV," but I rather doubt it.
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14
"Recreational vehicle. It can allow you to bring your home with you, which means one does not have to stay in a hotel."
Is there evidence he''s utilizing an RV for this trip? Pandemic concerns aside, I'll be impressed if he's touring in an RV. I know guys with RVs, and they are a hell of a lot of work. If he's capable of the effort required to keep up an RV, even if it's rented and he's just keeping it clean and able to drive it and know what to watch for should it have a problem, then I'd be a little bit impressed.
If Professor Peterson was using an RV, and if he proves that this was the case (visual evidence: i.e., a photo of him standing outside the RV, plus another of him at the wheel), then I will publicly apologize for criticizing him on this matter. Like Dr. Robbers, I very much doubt that he's an "RV guy." Plus, look at this comment of his from earlier, about the fox: "Not sixty seconds later, he loped right past the car." I grant that it's possible that, by "car" he actually meant "RV," but I rather doubt it.
That would seem to suggest he may be traveling by car which means he is probably staying in hotels, which is a higher risk activity. I doubt he is tenting it but maybe.
Dr. Scratch: ""Not sixty seconds later, he loped right past the car." I grant that it's possible that, by "car" he actually meant "RV," but I rather doubt it."
Hardcore "RV guys" toe a car with their RV so they can zip around at their destinations spots. If he knows how to chain a car to his RV then even more respect.
Themis: "That would seem to suggest he may be traveling by car which means he is probably staying in hotels, which is a higher risk activity. I doubt he is tenting it but maybe."
If he knows how to set up a tent and is putting the effort not only into setting up the tent, but related activities such as cooking on a camping stove and cleaning up afterward then I'd be nearly as impressed as the RV scenario.
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.
LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
This would seem to put Dr. P on the end of the spectrum of those who wouldn't want to venture out to the rockies in an RV.
RVing can be a low risk activity. It depends on how one does it. Scratches latest post may indicate some evidence he is just traveling by car.
He has had many blog posts excoriating people for not "taking covid-19 seriously,"
This seems to be the crux of the issue. What does it mean to take covid 19 seriously? I suspect one doesn't have to go to the extreme and never leave the house to be considered taking the virus seriously. Since DCP made the statements, first we would have to see how he might define taking it seriously and compare with how we might define it.
This would seem to put Dr. P on the end of the spectrum of those who wouldn't want to venture out to the rockies in an RV.
RVing can be a low risk activity. It depends on how one does it. Scratches latest post may indicate some evidence he is just traveling by car.
He has had many blog posts excoriating people for not "taking covid-19 seriously,"
This seems to be the crux of the issue. What does it mean to take covid 19 seriously? I suspect one doesn't have to go to the extreme and never leave the house to be considered taking the virus seriously. Since DCP made the statements, first we would have to see how he might define taking it seriously and compare with how we might define it.
He really needs to explain his thinking on this.
"Religion is about providing human community in the guise of solving problems that don’t exist or failing to solve problems that do and seeking to reconcile these contradictions and conceal the failures in bogus explanations otherwise known as theology." - Kishkumen
I'm not sure he does need to explains it, but we can look at what we know. Traveling from Utah to Colorado is not breaking any laws that I am aware of. There are recommendations that say staying home is the safest way to avoid covid 19, but I wouldn't consider traveling as not taking covid 19 seriously. It would depend on how you do it. Air travel is the most risky, and possibly crosses the line in not taking it seriously, but he looks to be traveling by car, which is low risk. Hotels are a little higher risk, but it depends on a number of factors. Does he sanitize his room, does he wear a mask where he should. I think someone who wears a mask even if they don't have to in stores is taking it somewhat seriously.