Alexander Vindman: Coming forward ended my career. I still believe doing what?????s right matters.

[_Chap]

I'm calling "snowflake" on this guy.

This comment on a soldier who has fought and bled for his country and got the embedded fragments to prove it, and who testified against Trump knowing that the Republican senate would ensure Trump stayed President, with all the associated powers to exact vengeance - well, it does make me think that there may be aspects of the otherwise public-spirited and fair-minded Dr. Shades that may not be entirely nice.

No doubt that is just a misunderstanding on my part.

[_Some Schmo]

Cry me a river.

Every once in a while, you demonstrate a flabbergasting amount of ignorance.

[_moksha]

Especially when everything will be reversed in January anyway when Trump and his allies are gone?

Sort of like Rome being built in 24-hours, eh? Still, it is good to be a glass-half-full kind of person. I also wish Colonel Vindman had stayed.

Scary thought, what if Murphy and his laws of perversity hold and Trump remains?

[_Temp. Admin.]

He served a combat tour as an infrantry officer in Iraq, sustained an IED wound, earned his Ranger tab, and he's a snowflake, huh?

Let's look at it this way: An IED wound wasn't enough to stop him, but a little bit of bullying is?

Sounds like marine basic training still haunts you in your dreams, Shades.

Of course it does. Regularly. If it doesn't, then you haven't been through it.

Get the board fixed!

The light is at the end of the tunnel. Concrete efforts are being made.

Every once in a while, you demonstrate a flabbergasting amount of ignorance.

You should talk to my wife. She would upgrade your "every one in a while" to "24 hours a day, 7 days a week."

I also wish Colonel Vindman had stayed.

Me, too. If only to stick it to Trump. He left, so Trump won. He should've known that.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

I just took Shades’ comment as a little Officer-Enlisted interservice banter.

- Doc

[_Jersey Girl]

Get the board fixed!

The light is at the end of the tunnel. Concrete efforts are being made.

Yeah yeah. Sure sure.
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[_honorentheos]

He served a combat tour as an infrantry officer in Iraq, sustained an IED wound, earned his Ranger tab, and he's a snowflake, huh?

Let's look at it this way: An IED wound wasn't enough to stop him, but a little bit of bullying is?

Some education is apparently required.

Army officers have a limited number of opportunities and time in rank when they are obligated to become eligible for promotion and then find a slot at rank. The intent is to ensure dead weight isn't just occupying space at the top but instead being pruned out to make way for new blood. LT to Captain is almost automatic as is Captain to Major. But after that it gets pretty cut throat and many careers end at O-4 from failure to find a slot and be promoted to Lt. Colonel (O-5) which is the rank Vindman held. And it is all the more difficult to make full bird Colonel. When Vindman states the Trump admin was interfering with his eligibility for promotion, it's saying they were forcing him out.

But there's even more to it. Vindman being passed over for eligibility for O-6 had caused a political roadblock for all the other O-5s who were waiting on Congress to vote on their eligibility. So not only was it affecting his career but the careers of hundreds of his peers. Stepping down through retirement was him taking himself out of the game of political football for the good of his brothers and sisters in arms.

I don't think that makes him a snowflake.

[_Temp. Admin.]

(Dr. Shades here, posting under our "Temp. Admin." account.)

But there's even more to it. Vindman being passed over for eligibility for O-6 had caused a political roadblock for all the other O-5s who were waiting on Congress to vote on their eligibility. So not only was it affecting his career but the careers of hundreds of his peers.

It sounds to me like if he was being passed over, then there was one less person competing for limited slots--thus removing a political roadblock, not creating one. Certainly you're not implying that Trump et. al was punishing ALL Army 0-5s for the actions of this one guy.

Stepping down through retirement was him taking himself out of the game of political football for the good of his brothers and sisters in arms.

But if Trump and his allies were passing him over for promotion, then there was no need to take himself out of the game of political football for the good of his brothers and sisters in arms (since Trump had already done it for him), right?

[_honorentheos]

I know who you are. I don't have sympathy for your view.

Regarding what was actually happening did your Google break with the board? It doesn't take much to learn what was going on.

There is a list of O-5s who have been waiting on Congress to approve their eligibility for promotion that was being held up over the politics around Vindman. It was led by Sen. Duckworth who was demanding a statement confirming Vindman not being deemed eligible was not retaliation. With his retiring, he cleared the political game board so the others aren't being held up.

[_honorentheos]

(Dr. Shades here, posting under our "Temp. Admin." account.)

But there's even more to it. Vindman being passed over for eligibility for O-6 had caused a political roadblock for all the other O-5s who were waiting on Congress to vote on their eligibility. So not only was it affecting his career but the careers of hundreds of his peers.

It sounds to me like if he was being passed over, then there was one less person competing for limited slots--thus removing a political roadblock, not creating one. Certainly you're not implying that Trump et. al was punishing ALL Army 0-5s for the actions of this one guy.

Stepping down through retirement was him taking himself out of the game of political football for the good of his brothers and sisters in arms.

But if Trump and his allies were passing him over for promotion, then there was no need to take himself out of the game of political football for the good of his brothers and sisters in arms (since Trump had already done it for him), right?

I also feel it needs noted what confabulatory BS took place above. Rather than take time to actually get informed on the issue and update accordingly, Shades nutted out some off the cuff justifications for his original arguments.

Classic confabulation.