Biden vs. Trump

[_MeDotOrg]

My new hat arrived today. The looks I got at Home Depot were priceless.

I literally started laughing out loud.

[_Gunnar]

We've had rational conversations before.

No one has ever had a rational conversation with any of you idiots.

And they still can't escape or spin away the truth of Trump's horrendous handling of the pandemic.

[_subgenius]

They don't give a ____ what he does. ...

Close, but more accurately is to say we don't care who he is..what he does matters only in regard to his job and on that we clearly care. He has performed quite well on the issues we care about, like criminal justice reform, tax reform, regulations, foreign policy, etc
As for your grievances and moments of being offended by various statements he has made, yes I don't care. The cult of personality is for you, not for me.

Go ahead and try to have a logical, rational conversation with...

2 things come to mind here, 1 - You reap what you sow. Almost every post from people like KG/Hawkeye/Icarus is dripping with snipe and emotionally driven nonsense. Schmo relies solely on profanity laden insults without style or substance. And 2- you can't claim as "rational" posters that come together to reinforce and echo opinions and positions that they already agree upon; that's more of a circle jerk than a "rational conversation".
But yeah, "keep that in mind".

[_ajax18]

Close, but more accurately is to say we don't care who he is..what he does matters only in regard to his job and on that we clearly care. He has performed quite well on the issues we care about, like criminal justice reform, tax reform, regulations, foreign policy, etc
As for your grievances and moments of being offended by various statements he has made, yes I don't care. The cult of personality is for you, not for me.

This!

[_Some Schmo]

Close, but more accurately is to say we don't care who he is..what he does matters only in regard to his job and on that we clearly care. He has performed quite well on the issues we care about, like criminal justice reform, tax reform, regulations, foreign policy, etc
As for your grievances and moments of being offended by various statements he has made, yes I don't care. The cult of personality is for you, not for me.

This!

Fu-cking liars agree, they love to fu-cking lie together.

Fu-cking lying assholes. Leave it to idiot Mormons.

[_Some Schmo]

It's ____ The Libs, that's pretty much it.

On this, we certainly agree. They don't have a philosophy; they're too stupid for that. All they have is sociopathic selfishness. The fact that their lives suck so much, coupled with massive ignorance and an inability to take responsibility for themselves makes them lash out at their imagined enemy, the "libs."

Whiny little cu-nts.

[_honorentheos]

Tax reform = bankrupt the country to give tax cuts to corporations and wealthy that he sold with short termed expired cuts for voters like you? Leaving the national debt to climb so we had no choice but to make it even worse when the crisis hit?

Foreign policy = alienate our allies and make the world more antagonistic to the US?

Regulations = what regulations? even though he himself said in the debates against Clinton that without regulations he as a businessman was going to do whatever it took without regard for any greater good or restraint. So if people want things like clean air and water, protections from unfair treatment and protection of small businesses from the abuse of perpetual law suits, etc., that requires regulation?

Admit it. You like him because you hate Democrats and he is Democrat's worst nightmare. It doesn't matter if those concerns are justified. You think the economy was good under Trump without knowledge of how we were being set up for a fall that Covid triggered early, and he is ignoring Congress which gives you a hard on.

[_Some Schmo]

Admit it. You like him because you hate Democrats and he is Democrat's worst nightmare. It doesn't matter if those concerns are justified. You think the economy was good under Trump without knowledge of how we were being set up for a fall that Covid triggered early, and he is ignoring Congress which gives you a hard on.

This is true. They are fu-cking liars, though, so they'll never admit it.

And they're so stupid, they don't realize their incompetent hero is also turning off independents. They think it's limited to "leftists" because these morons are complete morons. They actually think the country is in a better place now than 4 years ago. I mean, how fu-cking stupid do you have to be to believe that?

[_subgenius]

Tax reform = bankrupt the country to give tax cuts to corporations and wealthy that he sold with short termed expired cuts for voters like you? Leaving the national debt to climb so we had no choice but to make it even worse when the crisis hit?

Again, you may disagree with a policy that I agree with - which was the point and there is no need for you to voice an irrational and subjective objection here. If you want to debate the merits of any particular government action Trump has taken, I am happy to do just that, but just not under the circumstance of "it hurt my feelings".

Foreign policy = alienate our allies and make the world more antagonistic to the US?

Again, you may disagree with a policy that I agree with - which was the point and there is no need for you to voice an irrational and subjective objection here. If you want to debate the merits of any particular government action Trump has taken, I am happy to do just that, but just not under the circumstance of "it hurt my feelings".

Regulations = what regulations? even though he himself said in the debates against Clinton that without regulations he as a businessman was going to do whatever it took without regard for any greater good or restraint. So if people want things like clean air and water, protections from unfair treatment and protection of small businesses from the abuse of perpetual law suits, etc., that requires regulation?

Again, you may disagree with a policy that I agree with - which was the point and there is no need for you to voice an irrational and subjective objection here. If you want to debate the merits of any particular government action Trump has taken, I am happy to do just that, but just not under the circumstance of "it hurt my feelings".

Admit it. You like him because you hate Democrats and he is Democrat's worst nightmare. It doesn't matter if those concerns are justified. You think the economy was good under Trump without knowledge of how we were being set up for a fall that Covid triggered early, and he is ignoring Congress which gives you a hard on.

I don't hate Democrats. I just do not agree with the overwhelming majority of the Democratic Party Platform or with most of the policy positions that Democratic Party leadership proposes and promotes.
While my personal views tend to be more Libertarian, I find my political efforts yield more substantial results when they align with what the Republican Party Platform accomplishes.

But again, you are free to disagree in whatever manner you choose, however, your disagreement will have no rational credibility for me when based solely on grievances for inconsequential personality traits. For example, skin color is irrelevant to a person's ability to effectively serve in a political office.

[Guest]

But again, you are free to disagree in whatever manner you choose, however, your disagreement will have no rational credibility for me when based solely on grievances for inconsequential personality traits. For example, skin color is irrelevant to a person's ability to effectively serve in a political office.

So what is it you agree with? Removing all constraints on how wealthy capitalists make profit, no matter what potential damage is done to our environment or human health and quality of life? Do you think no efforts should be made to reduce or eliminate pollution, or mitigate or even investigate the potential consequences of human activities' effect on climate change, or protect endangered species whose habitats we are destroying in the service of human greed and avarice? The U.S.A. has, until now, benefitted from having one of the world's safest food supplies in large part because of strict regulations on what substances industry is allowed to put or leave in our processed food, and dump into our waterways and air as waste products of our industries. Well thought out regulations have largely saved us from medical disasters that could have resulted from ill considered and insufficiently tested new drugs and medical procedures. Would you want to leave us at the mercy of medical quacks and charlatans by loosening or eliminating regulations that protect human life merely because they restrict potential profits?