5 yo white boy murdered at point blank range

[_subgenius]

As was already mentioned, there are thousands of kids who die every year after being shot.

CFR for "thousands".

It is absurd to insist that every single time someone is killed in America that it become nationwide headline news.

Why is it absurd? Or is it "more rational" for someone to determine which killings are worthy of report? Thus their determination being guided by a set of values that is either consumer based or?

The irony here is that this was picked up by the Right Wing media to prove a point that only shows they're the hypocrites.

I don't think you are using the words orony or hypocrites correctly on this context.

They want to say that the mainstream media only picks certain deaths and highlights them for political reasons (i.e. George Floyd) but this is precisely why they're focusing on the sad death of this child.

But its absurd to make every person killed a national headline....
(see how you are being ironic?)

They're exploiting a sad situation so they can then create a false equivalence by saying,

1. Its not a false equivalence,
2. A false equivalence is more appropriate when someone says the killing of George Floyd is the same as systematic racism.

... The intent here is to divert and minimize the significance of the Floyd murder.

Naw, more likely is that the intent is too accent the fake outrage from white liberals who insist on telling others who matters, what matters, and how one should be outraged.

Again, thousands of kids are murdered every day and you never see this stuff headline the fake news sites like Brietbart.

Unlike you, I don't read Breitbart enough to make such a claim. But again, CFR for "thousands".

The only reason they suddenly pretend to care now is because they think it serves their political interests to do so.

Yours is a more appropriate statement for describing Democrats during an election year.

[_Some Schmo]

Again, thousands of kids are murdered every day and you never see this stuff headline the fake news sites like Brietbart. The only reason they suddenly pretend to care now is because they think it serves their political interests to do so.

Yep. Like I said, racist porn.

[_Icarus]

Oh look, subs posted more than a pithy comment or the first time this year. Unfortunately his attempt at a point by point response demonstrates why he's better served keeping his mouth shut, since it only proves what a moron he is for trying to equate an isolated killing of a child, to the systematic murdering of black people by public servants, especially when caught on video.

https://www.thetrace.org/2020/01/gun-de ... -increase/

"Shootings of children and teens also rose slightly, with the site tallying 3,771 victims under the age of 18 killed or injured. In 2018, that number was 3,539, and in 2017 it was 3,991."

If five year old white boys were being systematically murdered by black people then it would be a national hysteria and headline news every time it happened, but we all know this was an anomaly. George Floyd's murder was not.

Meanwhile, it seems like the mainstream media has already covered this story.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/13/us/north ... index.html
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 370924001/
https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2020/08/1 ... n-vpx.wral
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states ... etc-sought
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/5- ... li=BBnbcA1
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/5- ... n-n1018571


If you think it deserves protesting in the streets, then feel free to start a protest to demand the killer be indicted and convicted. But you won't because 1. you really care nothing about this beyond your own need for political points and 2. because the killer is a black man, there is no doubt in anyone's mind he'll be indicted.

[_ajax18]

is the role and responsibility of LE and how it's been abused is what's at the heart of these protests.

Is there any role or responsibility for the public in how they behave towards law enforcement? Like maybe comply with the officers orders and save your arguments for the courtroom? It's as if we're expecting absolute perfection from law enforcement in keeping law breakers safe and unharmed who are determined to push the limit and dish out abuse to the officers.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Ajax. When you restart the cycle of the discussion at a talking point that’s already been shown to be a problem, I don't know what to say to you. For example, we have a guy here in SLC that was compliant even though multiple LEOs were shouting multiple contradicting orders at him. Even with him on the ground with hands raised, not arguing with the LEOs an officer sicced his dog on him causing permanent damage to his leg. This was only brought to light because our LEOs were forced to wear body cams and have them turned on thanks to various prior protests. Police have turned into a paramiltary organization whose tactics are meant to intimidate people into compliance through terrorizing them and overwhelming force or the threat of force. This happens so much we’ve come to normalize this, and it’s come to a head.

What a lot of us want is police to return to or turn into a decent organization that treats people with decency and seeks to deescalate from the get go rather than what we have now. The militarization of the police has created an us vs. them reality for too many Americans. If a higher standard of conduct is too much to bear for a municipality or for individual officers then policing isn’t for them. They need to find other ways to keep the peace or another line of work (for the individual).

- Doc

[_Morley]

Well said, Cam.

[_Some Schmo]

Ajax. When you restart the cycle of the discussion at a talking point that’s already been shown to be a problem, I don't know what to say to you.

He likes getting smacked for being willfully stupid. He admitted it today. He knows the answer to his idiotic suggestion, and wants to be called an idiot for saying it again, because it turns out he's a shameless masochist in addition to being incurably selfish.

He's not here for discussions. Lying brings him pleasure. That's all.

[_ajax18]

Is there any role or responsibility for the public in how they behave towards law enforcement? Like maybe comply with the officers orders and save your arguments for the courtroom?

I guess not. Police are there to be abused and for criminals to take their frustrations out upon. I can't see why anyone would be willing to do that job. If this is what you all want so bad from the police, why aren't any of you willing to do the job?

[_Icarus]

Is there any role or responsibility for the public in how they behave towards law enforcement? Like maybe comply with the officers orders and save your arguments for the courtroom?

I guess not. Police are there to be abused and for criminals to take their frustrations out upon. I can't see why anyone would be willing to do that job. If this is what you all want so bad from the police, why aren't any of you willing to do the job?

If the tables were turned and there was an epidemic of black cops killing innocent white people all the time you're views would be completely opposite.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Ajax. Of course we as the public have the responsibility to be decent and criminals have the right to argue their case in court. What does that have to do with the thrust of my point which I made through the example above?

Let’s say you and your wife get a divorce. Let’s say it just guts you. She takes the kids. She takes your crap. She ruins your rep on social media. She turns the kids against you. Both sides of your family now think you’re this monster. She placed a restraining order on you with some trumped bs. She’s got you by the short hairs. You’re distraught and suicidal.

So, one night in the vortex of your life you show up to YOUR HOUSE that YOU PAY FOR and you knock on the door because you just want to appeal to her humanity. And she calls the cops and claims her crazy ex is outside making a scene, threatening to kill her, and is scaring the kids. She’s leveraged the power of the state against you.

Next thing you know three patrol cars pull up, sirens blaring, 10,000 lumens flashing in your face, and four cops screaming at you to comply with four different contradicting orders. Your head would be spinning, you’re probably scared shitless, and you try to do what everyone is telling you to do so you kind of freeze, but half way kneel, but hands in the air, but you turn around, but then you don’t because you think you hear someone tell you to do something else, but the sirens are blaring, and there’s K-9 losing its crap, and you’re damned freaking out at this point.

And then a cop looses his dog on you and starts tearing the crap out of your arm, and you’re screaming ok ok! But it hurts and you’re being jerked around and you can’t really help but reflexively pull away from this machine that’s biting you repeatedly and then you get shot. Or tased. Or the holy “F” beat out of you.

In the cops’ report you were this restraining order violator, and noncompliant individual who resisted arrest. Do you get it now? Sure you could argue your point in court with what? You’re broke or cash poor. And to what end? The judges have a 100% ruling in favor of the cops history in your area. The DA overcharges you with multiple felonies and you plea down to some lesser charges and now your ass is in jail and you have a rap sheet. Good luck with your career after that. And good luck with your family. And good luck with paying child and spousal support. You’ll be in jail again for not paying.

This is happening all over the country. Can you have empathy for the underlying reasons with the protests now?

- Doc