Trump openly admits to sabotaging Post Office to boost his re-election chances

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Re: Trump openly admits to sabotaging Post Office to boost his re-election chances

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moksha wrote:
Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:18 am
Damaging the mail to keep people from voting for someone other than Trump is the act of a tyrant.
hollow argument with no basis on fact.
universal mail-in voting does not exist, and only a moron would believe that it could be implemented by States before November. Only an idiot would believe in such a thing today. All you are doing is admitting that most Democrats are susceptible to fear mongering and are incapable of accomplishing the simple task of voting with the multitude of methods already available to their entitled selves.
The current USPS argument from your camp makes me, for the first time, consider the reality that perhaps people who believe this is an actual issue should are too stupid and should not be allowed to vote.
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Only a moron or someone heavily invested in private competitors to the USPS would condone deliberately kneecapping and slowing down their ability to deliver mail. This is not just about universal voting by mail. For example: there are senior citizens and vets whose health and, in some cases, very lives depend on the mail to reliably deliver their prescribed medications via E-Script. And, as pointed out by others, USPS delivers mail and parcels even to areas that commercial delivery services will not deliver to. The USPS is even enshrined in the U.S. Constitution!
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I can think of a very strong reason why Mormons and everyone else should be concerned with the damage Trump and his Postmaster General are doing to the Post Office in order to win the upcoming election. The damage Trump does before November will be reaped with a greater vengeance at Christmas time when gifts do not arrive.

That brand new solid pewter gold-plated Christus statue will be stuck aboard some freighter bound for ports unknown because the sorting machines were removed to interfere with mail-in ballots!!!

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Perhaps the worst of it is that the assault on the USPS did not start with Trump and Dejoy. The GOP has been trying to hobble and marginalize the Postal Service for years, if not decades.

The following is just a small sample of how Republicans and other conservatives have been deliberately trying to undermine the Postal Service.
Listening to Issa, you’d never know that the post office’s immediate crisis is largely of Congress’s own making. Conservatives aren’t wrong to say that the shift toward electronic mail – what USPS calls “e-diversion” – poses a challenge for the Postal Service’s business model. (The recent drop-off in mail is also a consequence of the recession-induced drop in advertising.)

But even so, in the first quarter of this fiscal year, the post office would have made an operational profit, if not for a 75-year healthcare “pre-funding” mandate that applies to no other public or private institution in the United States.

Warren Gunnels, aide to Sen. Bernie Sanders, calls that mandate “the poison pill that has hammered the Postal Service … over 80 percent of the Postal Service deficit since that was enacted was entirely due to the pre-funding requirement.”


This death hug was part of the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act, which was passed on a voice vote by a lame duck Republican Congress in 2006. As I’ve reported, the mandate required the Postal Service, over 10 years, to pre-fund healthcare benefits for the next 75. This unique burden costs USPS $5.5 billion a year. The new law also restricted the Postal Service’s ability to raise postage rates, or to provide “nonpostal services” that, in an e-diversion era, could be key to its future. American Postal Workers Union president Cliff Guffey says the bill was designed “by those people who hate government … to destroy the Postal Service. And that’s what they did.”

The Postal Service has long been required to provide “universal service”: delivering to all 151 million addresses in the United States. Conservatives promise that private companies could serve the Postal Service’s function more efficiently, but when it’s their money on the line, the private companies themselves aren’t always so sure. Some of the packages sent through UPS or FedEx are actually delivered by the Postal Service, because those companies save money by contracting with USPS to serve more remote customers.

The paragraphs I highlighted in the above excerpt are especially egregious. What public or private enterprise could expect to make a profit with a burdensome mandate like that imposed upon them by force of law?

Why are any conservatives, particularly Republicans, so hell bent on handicapping or preventing the USPS from providing the service so many Americans depend on every day, despite it's being enshrined in our very Constitution?

Do you suppose that the fact that Louis DeJoy is heavily invested in commercial delivery services that compete with the USPS, and has contributed millions to support Trump's candidacy might just barely have something to do with that?
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Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co. dropped as much as 6% on Wednesday after President Donald Trump told his 85 million Twitter followers to boycott Goodyear tires.

"Don't buy GOODYEAR TIRES - They announced a BAN ON MAGA HATS," Trump tweeted.

Trump's tweet was likely sparked by an image shared on social media this week said to show a slide of a Goodyear employee training presentation outlining that "MAGA attire" is considered "unacceptable" in the workplace.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/new ... 029518025#
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moksha wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:07 am
Trump might be going postal on you next.
Quote of the day. Superb.
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And how can removing hundreds of high speed, automatic mail sorting machines possibly be seriously considered a cost saving, efficiency measure? Is making thousands of postal workers have to resort to manually sorting billions of pieces of mail somehow more cost effective? Obviously the only conceivable rationale for such a move is to deliberately and drastically slow down the processing and delivery of mail!
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Some Schmo wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:30 am
moksha wrote:
Thu Aug 20, 2020 5:07 am
Trump might be going postal on you next.
Quote of the day. Superb.
Agreed!
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.

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Trump is not even satisfied with questioning the legitimacy of mail-in voting; he is trying to cast doubt on the legitimacy of in-person voting too (unless, of course, it results in his being reelected).
Jesse talks about the unhinged ranting of Donald Trump on Sean Hannity's show where he is no longer complaining only about mail-in voting but shifted his focus to include in-person voting as well...
It is increasingly obvious that to Trump, any vote against him or Republicans is, by definition, illegitimate. At least he devoutly wishes that were the case.
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.

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