Russian Collusion After All

The Off-Topic forum for anything non-LDS related, such as sports or politics. Rated PG through PG-13.
_Icarus
_Emeritus
Posts: 1541
Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:01 pm

Russian Collusion After All

Post by _Icarus »

Let’s be clear, the Republican lead Senate Intel Committe report released yesterday PROVES the Trump campaign coordinated, colluded & yes, conspired with Russia to steal the 2016 election from Hillary Clinton. Now more than ever . . .

Image


Trump Family Members May Have Lied During Russia Testimony, Bipartisan Senate Leaders Say

In a bipartisan letter to the Justice Department, the Senate Intelligence Committee raised worries concerning statement provided by some of Donald Trump's family members throughout the Russia investigation. According to the Los Angeles Times," [The letter] raised concerns about statements given by relatives and also confidants of President Trump that appeared to contradict information supplied by a former deputy campaign chairman to Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III."
Last edited by Guest on Wed Aug 19, 2020 10:09 pm, edited 2 times in total.
"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
_Some Schmo
_Emeritus
Posts: 15602
Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:59 pm

Re: Russian Collusion After All

Post by _Some Schmo »

Icarus wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:35 pm
Let’s be clear, the Republican lead Senate Intel Committe report released yesterday PROVES the Trump campaign coordinated, colluded & yes, conspired with Russia to steal the 2016 election from Hillary Clinton.
They must be RINOs.
God belief is for people who don't want to live life on the universe's terms.
_moksha
_Emeritus
Posts: 22508
Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:42 pm

Re: Russian Collusion After All

Post by _moksha »

Since the Russians have free reign with divisive misinformation in the 2020 campaign, I am wondering if anyone has noticed an uptick in such divisive misinformation by operatives on this forum?
Cry Heaven and let loose the Penguins of Peace
_subgenius
_Emeritus
Posts: 13326
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:50 pm

Re: Russian Collusion After All

Post by _subgenius »

Cool story how this report echoes the Mueller report and yet (a.k.a. in reality) PROVES nothing except:
The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence found no evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 presidential election.
But keep your faith based drivel moving forward. Your reliance on the cited language of "suggested..may have been" is PROOF of how weak minded your post is.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty
I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them
what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams
If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
_Doctor CamNC4Me
_Emeritus
Posts: 21663
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:02 am

Re: Russian Collusion After All

Post by _Doctor CamNC4Me »

So, I’ve been reading through the first four volumes of the report. I haven’t touched the fifth volume, yet. It’s about a thousand pages.

Bottom line: The report describes hundreds of actions by Trump, his campaign, and his associates in the run-up to the 2016 election that involve various degrees of participation by Trump or his associates in Russian activity that did, in fact, meddle in the election and ultimately influence.

I don’t know what else to say on the matter except the report is ‘right there’ and easily accessible. When McConnell says the report exonerates Trump and team he’s either totally ignorant of what’s contained in the report or he’s banking on the fact Trumpers won’t read it, don’t care to know the truth contained in it, and just need to be told a lie so they can repeat it.

What’s sad is this information was widely available to the Senate during Trump’s trial and they basically failed in their duty to safeguard the Republic. That’s treason.

- Doc
_Elphaba
_Emeritus
Posts: 499
Joined: Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:21 pm

Re: Russian Collusion After All

Post by _Elphaba »

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:28 pm
What’s sad is this information was widely available to the Senate during Trump’s trial and they basically failed in their duty to safeguard the Republic. That’s treason.
I don't know whom I despise more: Trump or the obscenely treasonous Senate Republicans.

Honestly, at this point I would rather have the Republicans lose its grip on the Senate than Trump lose the presidency. He's crazy crazy, but they're not. They're just despicable human beings. The Democrats would take over the Senate, and thus, take away Trump's main weapon. He'd then become convictable, somewhat controllable, and best of all, mostly ignorable, all of which would make his head explode. Maybe then I'd be able to breathe, and perhaps even laugh, again.

Elphaba
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.)
~~Walt Whitman
_subgenius
_Emeritus
Posts: 13326
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:50 pm

Re: Russian Collusion After All

Post by _subgenius »

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sat Aug 22, 2020 8:28 pm
...various degrees of participation by Trump or his associates in Russian activity that did, in fact, meddle in the election and ultimately influence.

..
Can you offer up at least of the most severe examples here? Particular to Trump "meddling" if possible.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty
I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them
what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams
If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
_Doctor CamNC4Me
_Emeritus
Posts: 21663
Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:02 am

Re: Russian Collusion After All

Post by _Doctor CamNC4Me »

For sure. Understanding your attention span as I do what would be an effective way to communicate with you? In other words, what’s the best way to convey a lot of information as condensed as possible that’ll meet the bar you just set as “severe?”

For example, should I just type “Manafort?” I’m afraid once I get too wordy, like, maybe more than a sentence, you’ll be distracted by a squirrel, or a grindr notice will pop up on your phone and it’s off to the races.

Anyway. I’ve already lost you. If I haven’t, let me know how many sentences you can handle per ‘severe’ example.

As for others I’ll post this reminder:

“I don’t know what else to say on the matter except the report is ‘right there’ and easily accessible. When McConnell says the report exonerates Trump and team he’s either totally ignorant of what’s contained in the report or he’s banking on the fact Trumpers won’t read it, don’t care to know the truth contained in it, and just need to be told a lie so they can repeat it.”

- Doc
_subgenius
_Emeritus
Posts: 13326
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:50 pm

Re: Russian Collusion After All

Post by _subgenius »

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:22 am
For sure. Understanding your attention span as I do what would be an effective way to communicate with you? In other words, what’s the best way to convey a lot of information as condensed as possible that’ll meet the bar you just set as “severe?”

For example, should I just type “Manafort?” I’m afraid once I get too wordy, like, maybe more than a sentence, you’ll be distracted by a squirrel, or a grindr notice will pop up on your phone and it’s off to the races.

Anyway. I’ve already lost you. If I haven’t, let me know how many sentences you can handle per ‘severe’ example.

As for others I’ll post this reminder:

“I don’t know what else to say on the matter except the report is ‘right there’ and easily accessible. When McConnell says the report exonerates Trump and team he’s either totally ignorant of what’s contained in the report or he’s banking on the fact Trumpers won’t read it, don’t care to know the truth contained in it, and just need to be told a lie so they can repeat it.”

- Doc
Manafort? you are just now learning about him? Interesting. But I must apologize for assuming that you could easily provide an "example" from what you have described as being "hundreds" of examples.
Especially since the overwhelming take away from the newly released report has been:
"The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence found no evidence .."

But apparently you have found "hundreds" of evidence...but you are just unable to provide any of it here, because of my attention span...oh, ok.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty
I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them
what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams
If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
_MeDotOrg
_Emeritus
Posts: 4761
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:29 pm

Re: Russian Collusion After All

Post by _MeDotOrg »

In the 1950's, baseball's Cincinnati Reds changed their name to the Redlegs. The word RED had such negative connotation at the time that the franchise couldn't chance the association made with a name they had for 60 years.

Such was the power of the Red Menace in the 1950s, fueled by 'Tail-Gunner' Joe McCarthy. (McCarthy's lawyer, Roy Cohn, is the link to Donald Trump). I must admit, I don't anyone thought to monetize the Red Menace quite the way Steve Bannon monetized the Border Wall, but those were simpler times.

The GOP has come full circle with their own Tinkers to Evers to Chance: McCarthy to Cohn to Trump. From the Red Menace to the Russian hoax.
"The great problem of any civilization is how to rejuvenate itself without rebarbarization."
- Will Durant
"We've kept more promises than we've even made"
- Donald Trump
"Of what meaning is the world without mind? The question cannot exist."
- Edwin Land
Post Reply