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_Icarus
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So for the past two days the Proud Boys have been beating protesters with impunity. Where is Doc's even-handed outrage? They terrorize, aim loaded guns at protesters and the cops do nothing until after they leave. Doc is still sitting with his thumb up his ass talking about something from a week ago.

https://t.co/T8iuZeTbec?amp=1

https://Twitter.com/TheTNHoller/status/ ... 50304?s=20

https://Twitter.com/DemocracyInn/status ... 48038?s=20

https://Twitter.com/Amy_Siskind/status/ ... 59809?s=20

https://Twitter.com/AWKWORDrap/status/1 ... 77410?s=20

https://Twitter.com/KristenClarkeJD/sta ... 48323?s=20

https://Twitter.com/SKYRIDER4538/status ... 23362?s=20

https://Twitter.com/SKYRIDER4538/status ... 95264?s=20

Fascist Proud Boys hate group member Cole Robert Scott was filmed aggressively assaulting people with a metal baton in downtown Portland today, one week after he was arrested for firing a gun and ramming his car into another vehicle outside of an Oregon City bar. https://Twitter.com/RoseCityAntifa/stat ... 67232?s=20
"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
_Icarus
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Please pay attention to Portland right now. Proud boys and other far-right people are macing, swinging pipes, shooting paint balls, and generally attacking Black Lives Matter protesters. And police, who declare a riot when BLM protests every night, are letting it happen. https://Twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status ... 9498823682

Notorious right-wing fascist pulls a gun on the crowd in Portland. Police still do nothing. https://Twitter.com/JoshuaPotash/status ... 25632?s=20
"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
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That’s funny, because I watched a livestream of that very thing yesterday. The Proud Boys were repeatedly assaulted and simply defended themselves. They had crowbars thrown at them. They had those cement milkshakes thrown at them. They had hot motor oil sprayed on them. They’d only throw items back that were thrown at them, they’d only hit or mace someone when they were hit or maced, and they’d only strike someone when assaulted.

Look. I think they, the proud boys, are wackadoodles looking for a reason to ‘punch a commie in the face’. That’s why they went there. But again, we see Icarus’ totally and completely fabricated reality tailored to suit his narrative. It’s pretty disgusting at this point. I don’t know what to say - he supports the violent revolution being waged by some illiberal communists who are using useful idiots to attack the system. It is what it is.

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Here are some peaceful protesters who were infiltrated by white supremacists trying to make them look bad smashing windows, lighting fires, and doing other peaceful things all the name of discussing rationally police brutality, and definitely not having anything to do with "let's give Communism a try":

https://www.9news.com/amp/article/news/ ... 50e42f004a

That was Denver last night. Are these the people we want driving political discourse in this country?

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_Icarus
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:29 pm
That’s funny, because I watched a livestream of that very thing yesterday. The Proud Boys were repeatedly assaulted and simply defended themselves. They had crowbars thrown at them. They had those cement milkshakes thrown at them. They had hot motor oil sprayed on them. They’d only throw items back that were thrown at them, they’d only hit or mace someone when they were hit or maced, and they’d only strike someone when assaulted.

Look. I think they, the proud boys, are wackadoodles looking for a reason to ‘punch a commie in the face’. That’s why they went there. But again, we see Icarus’ totally and completely fabricated reality tailored to suit his narrative. It’s pretty disgusting at this point. I don’t know what to say - he supports the violent revolution being waged by some illiberal communists who are using useful idiots to attack the system. It is what it is.

- Doc
Lance Vannoy Hemmert, all you're doing here is proving your own bias and need to believe a certain narrative, because there are tons of videos on Twitter showing quite the opposite. But weird how you can't seem to come across any of those. Its almost like you're locked in to Andy Ngo or something.

But it really takes a special kind of stupid to suggest that a group recognized for being a Hate Group, which drove hundreds and thousands of miles to get involved in riots, whose admission policy requires new members to engage in physical violence, is somehow the innocent bystander in all these video clips.
The Proud Boys say they have an initiation process that has four stages and includes hazing. The first stage is a loyalty oath, on the order of "I’m a proud Western chauvinist, I refuse to apologize for creating the modern world"; the second is getting punched until the person recites pop culture trivia, such as the names of five breakfast cereals; the third is getting a tattoo and agreeing to not masturbate; and the fourth is getting into a major fight "for the cause."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proud_Boys#Membership

From the same link...
In January 2019, Reggie Axtell, a member of the Proud Boys, threatened Ted Wheeler, Portland, Oregon's Democratic mayor, in a Facebook video post. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, Axtell said in the video that Wheeler's "days are damned numbered ... I promise you this, Ted Wheeler: I’m coming for you, you little punk." Axtell also said that he would "unmask every [anti-fascist] son of a bitch that I come across", referring to a campaign initiated by Patriot Prayer leader Joey Gibson, Proud Boy Tusitala "Tiny" Toese and former Proud Boy Russell Schultz to tear off the bandanas of anti-fascist (antifa) demonstrators and taking pictures of their faces, thereby "demasking" them. The announcement of the campaign came shortly after an altercation that took place when Proud Boys and Patriot Prayer members attempted and failed to invade a chapter meeting of the left-wing organization Democratic Socialists of America. The groups clashed with anti-fascist activists nearby after being denied entry to the meeting, and said that they had been attacked.
"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
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The white supremacist group The Proud Boys has infiltrated police agencies all over the country. This is why so many Black people are targeted by police

Chicago Police Department investigating officer’s alleged ties to the Proud Boys

Notice story after story where Police keep “investigating” officer’s ties to the white supremacist group the Proud Boys

D.C. Police Can't Determine Whether Officers Who Fist Bumped Proud Boy On July 4 Violated Policy
https://dcist.com/story/20/02/07/office ... determine/

“Police said they did not stop the violence, although the Proud Boys event met the criteria to be declared a riot, because too few officers were available to respond and they deemed it too dangerous to intervene.”
https://Twitter.com/shannonrwatts/statu ... 56032?s=20

Chief: Officer’s Proud Boys membership didn’t break policy
https://apnews.com/12ece8cedbf045259dcddebf619141e7
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"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
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Denver officer seen telling white supremacists to hide to avoid arrest

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/newsa ... rrest.html


Today, out of town Proud Boys, MAGA + Qanon supporters, neo-Nazis + militia members rallied at an event organized by a far-Right organizer from the bay area. They also pepper-sprayed someone in a wheelchair, pulled out guns + menaced a parking garage. A thread.

https://Twitter.com/IGD_News/status/129 ... 58178?s=20
"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
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Obviously this was Proud Boys in MAGA hat who started this confrontation: https://Twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status ... 41952?s=20
"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
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"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
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This is Joe Biggs, leader of the Proud Boyz, bragging him and his boys cost Portland $2 million and wishing Antifa becomes a terrorist organization.

https://Twitter.com/ALT_uscis/status/12 ... 04992?s=20
"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
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