Based on what I have seen, this is a false seminary narrative that insults the many brilliant, and academically honest, LDS scholars who distinguish themselves among secular peers in non apologetic fields.
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It appears that Calvin is retweeting Prof. Benjamin Park's horrified tweets pointing out the grotesque nonsense Egyptologist John Gee is writing in his book of ideology in the guise of sociology. Deseret Book should be applauded for pulling this ridiculous garbage from its shelves. The book is a travesty.
On the other hand, anything that keeps Kwaku away from his efforts to spread COVID-19 by being an irresponsible idiot party planner perhaps should be allowed to slide. Keep it up Kwaku! Keep finding distractions. Anything to keep you from killing people with COVID-19 parties!
On the other hand, anything that keeps Kwaku away from his efforts to spread COVID-19 by being an irresponsible idiot party planner perhaps should be allowed to slide. Keep it up Kwaku! Keep finding distractions. Anything to keep you from killing people with COVID-19 parties!
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Gee's book has been pulled due to the interview of Dr. Ritner, there is very little doubt in my mind. They are to be applauded for doing so. Let the Mormon riff raff howl like Kwaku is, Gee pretends to academic rigor, and has been shown rigorously he is not academic. (notice the chiasmus.....I'm just sayin...... me thinks I felt a twinge of the Spirit there). NOTHING by John Gee should be published by the church anymore. He is a vastly larger embarrassment than Nibley ever got to be.
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How the hell did a black family get on the cover of his book?
Don't even get me started.
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How to pledge and devote yourself to the CULT!
What a stupid church. You can't even masturbate in the privacy of your own bedroom without the Church having to KNOW and shame you into guilt and submission.Close examination shows that weekly church attendance, daily prayer, frequent scripture study, and avoiding sexual activity outside of marriage make a difference in maintaining and preserving faith, confirming what scriptures and leaders of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have advised for many years.
Stupid Church!
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This is a huge, stunning development. You have to wonder about the extent of the panic which is no doubt surging through the Mopologists at the moment. I also can't help but wonder if Dr. Peterson's recent decision to self-censor his political views are somehow connected to this. Regardless, this is absolutely stunning news.Tom wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:16 pmKwaku El is claiming there is a campaign to get Dr. Gee's book pulled from Deseret Book and the BYU Religious Studies Center. Today he tweeted the following:I checked: the book is no longer listed on the Deseret Book and the BYU Religious Studies Center websites (see https://deseretbook.com/products/161963 and https://rsc.BYU.edu/book/saving-faith).1. PLS RETWEET.
Hey everyone, please send a nice email or call to @DeseretBook
Calvin misrepresented Prof John Gee & they’re being pressured to pull his book. He is the top scholar on The Book of Abraham, and this attack on him is a way to discredit his monumental work..
2. ..giving evidence of the restoration. Calvin’s poor faith tweet is seemingly coordinated with the antimormon podcast’s (MormonStories) recent attack on Professor Gee. An attack video over 5 hours long.
Gee is one of the best scholars in the church, and he has given us waves of new defenses and evidences for TBOA. Antimormons know that tearing down TBOA is a hard punch at the church—this is solely an attempt to hurt a large portion of academic work
3. keeping our doctrine afloat, in a historical and academic lense.
Calvin has tried to ruin the life of his family, and lost in court. He’s now trying to take down John Gee. Don’t let him win!!
4. Email: service@deseretbook.com
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5. Let Deseret Book & Religious Studies Center know that this is a mob attack by antimormons & that you support John Gee and his work, much of which has been stamped with approval by the Bretheren
Recall what Dr. Gee wrote in May about his book:Here is a related blog post responding to a few claims in Dr. Gee's book: https://bycommonconsent.com/2020/08/23/ ... expertise/Almost three and a half years ago, my book An Introduction to the Book of Abraham was announced by Deseret Book. When it was announced a certain individual or group of individuals launched a campaign to have the book suppressed. This delayed the release of the book a number of months (it was over a year from the announcement of the book to its actual release). To forestall something similar happening I have waited to announce my new book, Saving Faith, until it has actually come off the press.
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Why the hell will not the church release the numbers of dropouts, defections, resignatiions among all age groups- Brother Gee would definitely have to go back to the drawing board and patch up his analysis imho!
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Has this book been promoted on SeN or by Interpreter? I know he did a limited critique of Riess's book, but what about a more thorough promotion of his insights into the origins of same-sex attraction etc.?Doctor Scratch wrote:This is a huge, stunning development. You have to wonder about the extent of the panic which is no doubt surging through the Mopologists at the moment
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.
LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
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Yes, the SeN proprietor has promoted it: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/danpeters ... faith.html
Note that someone made the following comment earlier today on the post: “Gee's Book was just pulled off the shelves at Deseret Book. Does anybody know why? Thanks.”
The proprietor responded:
Note that someone made the following comment earlier today on the post: “Gee's Book was just pulled off the shelves at Deseret Book. Does anybody know why? Thanks.”
The proprietor responded:
I know why.
I don't think that I'm at liberty to say.
I hope that it will be back soon.
I favor debate over book-burning.
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Thanks for that information Tom. It looks like Midgley went all in on this book.
It's kind of ironic that the Proprietor would say he favors "debate" over book-burning.
He certainly had no issue putting Moksha and tavs on the 15th century stake to burn. Oh, that was justified because the debate is leading to bad feelings. What do you want to bet that the same points are being made somewhere about the content of Gees book?
I say, either accept the decision of Deseret Book, or re-instate tavs and Moksha. Probably better keep me banned. ;)
It's kind of ironic that the Proprietor would say he favors "debate" over book-burning.
He certainly had no issue putting Moksha and tavs on the 15th century stake to burn. Oh, that was justified because the debate is leading to bad feelings. What do you want to bet that the same points are being made somewhere about the content of Gees book?
I say, either accept the decision of Deseret Book, or re-instate tavs and Moksha. Probably better keep me banned. ;)
Lou Midgley 08/20/2020: "...meat wad," and "cockroach" are pithy descriptions of human beings used by gemli? They were not fashioned by Professor Peterson.
LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
LM 11/23/2018: one can explain away the soul of human beings...as...a Meat Unit, to use Professor Peterson's clever derogatory description of gemli's ideology.
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Well... If we are being completely honest, then I sort of think we have to admit that money has to do with this in a significant way.Gadianton wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:40 amThanks for that information Tom. It looks like Midgley went all in on this book.
It's kind of ironic that the Proprietor would say he favors "debate" over book-burning.
He certainly had no issue putting Moksha and tavs on the 15th century stake to burn. Oh, that was justified because the debate is leading to bad feelings.
"[I]f, while hoping that everybody else will be honest and so forth, I can personally prosper through unethical and immoral acts without being detected and without risk, why should I not?." --Daniel Peterson, 6/4/14