Biden vs. Trump

[_Jersey Girl]

No wonder we're so screwed up. Video is just over 3 minutes.

Rep. Scalise promoted doctored video of Joe Biden on Twitter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH2dqHFOOlo

Just thought I'd throw in this bit of irony:

"Stick with us. Don't believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news. ... What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."~ Donald Trump
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/25/politics ... index.html

[_Icarus]

Latest polls aren't looking good for Trump.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Biden still holds double digit lead nationally.

[_MeDotOrg]

Latest polls aren't looking good for Trump.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Biden still holds double digit lead nationally.

The thing that worries me is where Donald Trump's psyche is going to go in the next 60 days.

On Monday, Trump told Fox News’s Laura Ingraham a wild story he’d heard about a supposed plane full of “thugs” who had traveled together on a commercial flight to an unnamed American city to stage protests during the Republican National Convention. These same thugs, in Trump’s telling, are secretly pulling Biden’s strings from the “dark shadows.”

These are “people that you’ve never heard of, people that are in the dark shadows,” Trump said. “They’re people that are on the streets. They’re people that are controlling the streets. We had somebody get on a plane from a certain city this weekend, and in the plane it was almost completely loaded with thugs wearing these dark uniforms, black uniforms with gear and this and that.”

The president wouldn’t offer any more specifics because he said the whole incident is under investigation — another claim for which there’s no public evidence — but added “a lot of people were on the plane to do big damage.”

If any Republicans actually believed this, the FBI would be in front of a Senate giving horrifying details. I don't think that this type of wild accusation alone will pull away very many voters in the center. But the point of the anecdote is not to move people in the center.

Trump can't win on the economy. He can't win on his response to the pandemic. He has no great foreign policy triumphs. If Trump loses he spend the rest of his life in court or in jail. If he loses his brand is irreparably harmed. For Donald Trump, his brand is everything. This is the existential fight of his life.

So if you can't win by appealing rationally to the Cerebral Cortex, go for the limbic system. Push fear. Trump's best hope is to hope for the worst.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

You’ll note that not a one Republican will change their minds after reading what can only be described as crazy crazy ramblings about black clad thugs.

That’s just damned bananas.

- Doc

[_Gunnar]

Rachel Maddow notes an[sic] particularly specific warning from the director of the ODNI's National Counterintelligence and Security Center that "pro-Russia Ukrainian parliamentarian Andriy Derkach is spreading claims about corruption" as part of Russia's efforts to manipulate the 2020 U.S. election against Joe Biden and in support of Donald Trump. Derkach has not only been using Rudy Giuliani to spread his claims, but Republican senators Ron Johnson and Chuck Grassley have also been receptive to the Russian tactic. Aired on 8/7/2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ho3HezXj9o

Please look at this, and try to explain why at least two GOP Senators are actively and openly cooperating with a Russian tactic to discredit Trump's opponent for the benefit of Trump's reelection efforts. This doesn't look very good for the GOP cause, does it? Nor does it look for Trump that one of USA's chief rivals is so anxious to see him win reelection. Why would Russia do this, unless they knew it would hurt us and help them? And what kind of payback are Senators Johnson and Grassley expecting for this?

Republicans have been adamantly denying for years that there was any collusion between Russia and Trump's election campaign. Have they now become so desperate to retain power that they decided that even that is permissible, if necessary to ensure Trump's reelection? Has anyone here even seen the movie, "The Manchurian Candidate", or read the book on which it was based?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

tl;dr - Defense personnel think Trump is a piece of crap.

But why? It’s not like he’s disrespected them. Uh...

• ⁠In May 2020, the White House ended National Guard deployments one day before they could claim benefits

• ⁠The Trump admin seized 5 million masks intended for VA hospitals. Kushner distributes these masks to private entities for a fee, who then sells the masks to the government

• ⁠Trump fired the captain of the USS Theodore Roosevelt after he warned superiors that COVID19 was spreading among his crew. The virus subsequently spread amongst the crew.

• ⁠After Iran's retaliatory strike, 109 US troops suffered brain injuries. Trump dismissed these as "headaches"

• ⁠On July 20, 2017, in room 2E924 of the Pentagon, Trump told a room full of Generals, "You’re a bunch of dopes and babies"

• ⁠Pardoned multiple war criminals, which stomped on long standing military values, discipline, and command. Trump has no military experience (May&Nov, 2019)

• ⁠Trump mocked Lt. Col. Vindman for his rank and uniform. He threatened said purple heart officer, resulting in the Army providing him protection

• ⁠Trump’s Chief of Staff worked—in secret—to deny comprehensive health coverage to Vietnam Vets who suffered from Agent Orange.

• ⁠There is a facility in Tijuana for US veterans that Trump deported. Wounded war vet, Sen Duckworth (D) marked Veterans Day 2019 by visiting this facility

• ⁠Russia took control of the main U.S. military facility in Syria abandoned on Trump’s orders. Russia now owns the airstrip we built

• ⁠On Oct 7, 2019, Trump abruptly withdrew support from America's allies in Syria after a phone call with Turkey's president (Erdogan). Turkey subsequently bombed US Special Forces.

• ⁠Trump sent thousands of American troops to defend the oil assets of the country that perpetrated 9/11

• ⁠In Sept 2019, he made an Air Force cargo crew, flying from the U.S. to Kuwait stop in Scotland (where there's no U.S. base) to refuel at a commercial airport (where it costs more), so they could stay overnight at a Trump property (which isn't close to the airport). Trump’s golf courses are losing money, so he's forcing the military to pay for 5-star nights there.

• ⁠In Sept, 2019, Pentagon pulled funds for military schools, military housing funds, and daycare to pay for Trump's border wall.

• ⁠In Aug, 2019, emails revealed that three of Trump's Mar-a-Lago pals, who are now running Veterans Affairs, are rampant with meddling. "They had no experience in veterans affairs (none of them even served in the military) nor underwent any kind of approval process to serve as de facto managers. Yet, with Trump’s approval, they directed actions and criticized operations without any oversight. They wasted valuable staff time in hundreds of pages of communications and meetings, emails show. Emails reveal disdainful attitudes within the department to the trio’s meddling."

• ⁠Veterans graves will be "dug up" for the border wall, after Trump instructed aides to seize private property. Trump told officials he would pardon them if they break the law by illegally seizing property

• ⁠Children of deployed US troops are no longer guaranteed citizenship. This includes US troops posted abroad for years at a time (August 28, 2019)

• ⁠On Aug 2, 2019, Trump requisitioned military retirement funds towards border wall

• ⁠On July 31, 2019, Trump ordered the Navy rescind medals to prosecutors who were prosecuted war criminals

• ⁠Trump denied a U.S. Marine of 6 years entry into the United States for his citizenship interview (Reported July 17, 2019)

• ⁠Trump made the U.S. Navy Blue Angels violate ethics rules by having them fly at his July 4th political campaign event (July 4, 2019)

• ⁠Trump demanded US military chiefs stand next to him at 4th of July parade (reported July 2, 2019)

• ⁠In June, 2019, Trump sent troops to the border to paint the fence for a better "aesthetic appearance"

• ⁠Trump used his D-Day interview at a cemetery commemorating fallen US soldiers to attack a Vietnam veteran (June 6, 2019)

• ⁠Trump started his D-Day commemoration speech by attacking a private citizen (Bette Midler, of all people) (reported on June 4th, 2019)

• ⁠Trump made his 2nd wife, Marla Maples, sign a prenup that would have cut off all child support if Tiffany joined the military (reported June 4th, 2019)

• ⁠On May 27, 2019, Trump turned away US military from his Memorial Day speech because they were from the destroyer USS John S. McCain

• ⁠Trump ordered the USS John McCain out of sight during his visit to Japan (May 15, 2019). The ship's name was subsequently covered. (May 27, 2019)

• ⁠Trump purged 200,000 vets' healthcare applications (due to known administrative errors within VA’s enrollment system) (reported on May 13, 2019)

• ⁠Trump deported a spouse of fallen Army soldier killed in Afghanistan, leaving their daughter parentless (April 16, 2019)

• ⁠On March 20, 2019, Trump complained that a deceased war hero didn't thank him for his funeral

• ⁠Between 12/22/2018, and 1/25/2019, Trump refused to sign his party's funding bill, which shut down the government, forcing the Coast Guard to go without pay, which made service members rely on food pantries. However, his appointees got a $10,000 pay raise

• ⁠He banned service members from serving based on gender identity (1/22/2019)

• ⁠He denied female troops access to birth control to limit sexual activity (on-going. Published Jan 18, 2019)

• ⁠He tried to deport a marine vet who is a U.S.-born citizen (Jan 16, 2019)

• ⁠When a man was caught swindling veterans pensions for high-interest “cash advances," Trump's Consumer Financial Protection Bureau fined him $1 (Jan 26, 2019)

• ⁠He called a retired general a 'dog' with a 'big, dumb mouth' (Jan 1, 2019)

• ⁠He increased privatization of the VA, leading to longer waits and higher taxpayer cost (2018)

• ⁠He finally visited troops 2 years after taking office, but only after 154 vacation days at his properties (Dec 26, 2018)

• ⁠He revealed a covert Seal Team 5 deployment, including names and faces, on Twitter during his visit to Iraq (Dec 26, 2018)

• ⁠Trump lied to deployed troops that he gave them a 10% raise (12/26/2018). He tried giving the military a raise that was lower than the standard living adjustment. Congress told him that idea wasn't going to work. Then after giving them the raise that Congress made him, he lied about it pretending that it was larger than Obama's. It wasn't.

• ⁠He fired service members living with HIV just before the 2018 holidays

• ⁠He tried to slash disability and unemployment benefits for Veterans to $0, and eliminate the unemployability extrascheduler rating (Dec 17, 2018)

• ⁠He called troops on Thanksgiving and told them he's most thankful for himself (Thanksgiving, 2018)

• ⁠He urged Florida to not count deployed military votes (Nov 12, 2018)

• ⁠He canceled an Arlington Cemetery visit on Veterans Day due to light rain (Nov 12, 2018)

• ⁠While in Europe commemorating the end of WWI, he didn't attend the ceremony at a US cemetery due to the rain -- other world leaders went anyway (Nov 10, 2018)

• ⁠He used troops as a political prop by sending them on a phantom mission to the border and made them miss Thanksgiving with their families (Oct-Dec, 2018)

• ⁠He stopped using troops as a political prop immediately after the election. However, the troops remained in muddy camps on the border (Nov 7, 2018)

• ⁠Trump changed the GI Bill through his Forever GI Act, causing the VA to miss veteran benefits, including housing allowances. This caused many vets to run out of food and rent. (reported October 7, 2018)

• ⁠Trump doubled the rejection rate for veterans requesting family deportation protections (July 5, 2018)

• ⁠Trump deported active-duty spouses (11,800 military families face this problem as of April 2018)

• ⁠He forgot a fallen soldier's name (below) during a call to his pregnant widow, then attacked her the next day (Oct 23-24, 2017)

• ⁠He sent commandos into an ambush due to a lack of intel, and sends contractors to pick them up, resulting in a commando being left behind, tortured, and executed. (Trump approved the mission because Bannon told him Obama didn't have the guts to do it) (Oct 4, 2017)

• ⁠He blocked a veteran group on Twitter (June 2017)

• ⁠He ordered the discharge of active-duty immigrant troops with good records (2017-present)

• ⁠He deported veterans (2017-present)

• ⁠He said he knows more about ISIS than American generals (Oct 2016)

• ⁠On Oct 3, 2016, Trump said vets get PTSD because they aren't strong (note: yes, he said it's 'because they aren't strong.' He didn't say it's 'because they're weak.' This distinction is important because of Snopes)

• ⁠Trump accepted a Purple Heart from a fan at one of his rallies and said: “I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier.” (Aug 2, 2016)

• ⁠Trump attacks Gold Star families: Myeshia Johnson (gold star widow), Khan family (gold star parents) etc. (2016-present)

• ⁠Trump sent funds raised from a Jan 2016 veterans benefit to the Donald J Trump Foundation instead of veterans charities (the foundation has since been ordered shut because of fraud) (Jan, 2016)

• ⁠Trump said he has "more training militarily than a lot of the guys that go into the military" because he went to a military-style academy (2015 biography)

• ⁠Trump said he doesn't consider POWs heroes because they were caught. He said he prefers people who were not caught (July 18, 2015)

• ⁠Trump said having unprotected sex was his own personal Vietnam (1998)

• ⁠For a decade, Trump sought to kick veterans off of Fifth Avenue because he found them unsightly nuisances outside of Trump Tower. 1991

• ⁠Trump dodged the draft 5 times by having a doctor diagnose him with bone spurs.

• ⁠No Trump in America has ever served in the military; this spans 5 generations, and every branch of the family tree. In fact, the reason his grandfather immigrated to America was to avoid military service

- Doc

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

From the Atlantic:

“On the morning Trump was supposed to visit a veteran cemetery near Paris, “In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.

Belleau Wood is a consequential battle in American history, and the ground on which it was fought is venerated by the Marine Corps. America and its allies stopped the German advance toward Paris there in the spring of 1918. But Trump, on that same trip, asked aides, “Who were the good guys in this war?””

““On at least two occasions since becoming president, according to three sources with direct knowledge of his views, Trump referred to former President George H. W. Bush as a “loser” for being shot down by the Japanese as a Navy pilot in World War II.“”

- Doc

[_Temp. Admin.]

⁠On July 31, 2019, Trump ordered the Navy rescind medals to prosecutors who were prosecuted war criminals

We don't want medals to go to prosecuted war criminals, regardless of what careers they might have taken up later in life, right?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... s.amp.html

[_Temp. Admin.]

⁠On July 31, 2019, Trump ordered the Navy rescind medals to prosecutors who were prosecuted war criminals

We don't want medals to go to prosecuted war criminals, regardless of what careers they might have taken up later in life, right?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytime ... s.amp.html

So, Trump wanted to strip medals from the prosecutors who prosecuted war criminals, and not prosecuted war criminals who later became prosecutors?