Biden vs. Trump

[_Jersey Girl]

Why did Trump win when these two Republican candidates were thoroughly beaten?

Trump had help from the Russians as well as Comey. Hillary was not a popular candidate. Trump would have done worse then either Romney or McCain had he been the candidate against Obama.

Comey coming out with that re-opening the investigation business didn't help Clinton. I can tell you that much!

[_Gunnar]

Ifyou did, would you have preferred him over Trump in 2016 if you'd had your "druthers?"

Nope

Probably because he is not rabidly racist enough for you. I disagree with Romney on some important issues, but he is not a white supremacist, and he is the only Republican Senator who has any integrity left.

one more question. Is there anything Trump could possibly do or fail to do that would make him lose your vote and support in the coming election?

Nope

So; you would still vote for him if he shot and killed some random people on Pennsylvania Avenue walking by the Whitehouse?

What if he tried to negate a constitutional amendment (say, the 1st amendment guarantee of free speech) via an executive order, or worse yet, declared that as President he was not necessarily legally bound by anything stated in the U.S. Constitution?

[_ajax18]

How people who vote across party lines vote intetests me. Only my voting record in the primaries says much about my views and what influences and persuades me.

Well, I need to tell you that I find the question itself highly offensive. Let me explain. I consider my right to vote via secret ballot to be also a sacred right and that it's really between myself and my God. My own husband doesn't typically know who I voted for so I wouldn't publicly share my voting choices in all those elections that you wanted to know about.

But in the interest of fairness, I actually have stated who I voted for in 2012 in at least one post so I will address that as best as I can but I don't think my answer is going to feel satisfying or even interesting to you. I spent 2011-2014/15 literally keeping a trauma victim alive. Those years are somewhat of a blur to me because the sustained high alert also caused a certain level of trauma in me so there are huge gaps in my memory for most of those years. I guess the brain remembers what it has to in a situation like that. That said, I have shared here that I voted for Obama in 2012. All I recall is that I had the impression that Romney was a weak candidate though I honestly don't remember why. I can't name a particular issue or statement he made that year, that made me think that. I couldn't watch any of the campaign news and I am sure I didn't watch all of the debates though I may have seen some of it but nothing really stands out in my mind. So, I just don't recall it, ajax.

Now, if you asked me what I think of Romney currently. I will tell you that I believe he is a man of courage and good character having spoken his conscience without compromise, regarding Trump's Presidency. It takes a lot of guts to do that and I admire him for it. He's not as weak as I took him to be all those years ago.

Exactly which issues do you agree with or have you ever agreed with that were part of the Republican party platform?

[_ajax18]

Mr. 47%, tax cheat, childhood bully, animal cruelty, plutocrat, misogynist, cold war outdated mentality, and of course racist we think you're great now

[_Gunnar]

Exactly which issues do you agree with or have you ever agreed with that were part of the Republican party platform?

What, exactly, is even on the current Republican Party platform? It appears that practically the only firm plank on that platform is: "Reelect Trump!"

[_Jersey Girl]

Exactly which issues do you agree with or have you ever agreed with that were part of the Republican party platform?

Ajax, if you ask me questions regarding specific issues, I can tell you what I think about most things. Feel free or not. Economic issues really tend to confuse me, though.

[_moksha]

Mr. 47%, tax cheat, childhood bully, animal cruelty, plutocrat, misogynist, cold war outdated mentality, and of course racist we think you're great now.

All of these are Trump qualities, but you left off the biggest two: malignant narcissist and pathological liar.

[_ajax18]

Trump won Florida mainly because he got 64% of the White vote in that state. Romney got 61% of the White vote from Florida.

Trump was able to win Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin by razor-thin margins mainly due to lower Black turnout and higher White turnout from the 2012 election.

It seems like playing the middle isn't what wins elections anymore.

[_ajax18]

Ajax, if you ask me questions regarding specific issues, I can tell you what I think about most things. Feel free or not. Economic issues really tend to confuse me, though.

That's kind of why I would have liked to known when you ever voted for a Republican candidate. I'm just curious as to which candidates attracted swing voters and how. Because as of late, what I would call moderate candidates put forth by the Republican party are not winning general elections. The old strategy of run to the right to pacify the base in the primary then back to the middle to win the general election doesn't work anymore.

[_ajax18]

What, exactly, is even on the current Republican Party platform?

Capitalism and a booming economy that lifts all boats in the water, self reliance, lower taxes, less welfare spending, a sovereign nation that can democratically choose which immigrants come into the country and which do not, the appointment of conservative justices, pushing back the tide of communism led by people like Bernie Sanders, someone tough on crime who supports law enforcement and unwilling to bow the knee to terrorist groups like Antifa and Black Lives Matter, someone who won't impose policies that result in 45% unemployment over the next 3 years due to a virus that 99.96% of people suffer no noticeable effect from. How many foreclosures, repossessed vehicles? How ridiculously high will taxes have to go to pay for this shut down and how much will that hurt the economy down the road. This shut down was a huge mistake.

The stakes are very high. If I lived in a blue state I probably still wouldn't be allowed to go back to work. Biden has already said that if he had his way we'd be shut down right now. And for many on this board that shut down should last for the next 3 to 4 years. I don't want to live in a country where the law looks more favorably upon looting than keeping your business open and working. And that is exactly what the Democrat party wants. They need to be stopped.

I want an America where my 16 year old niece can drive to an activity without fear she'll be surrounded by BLM blocking the road ready to tear her from her car and beat her. I don't want a situation like Wisconsin where the kids have to stay locked in the basement while Dad has to stand watch with a hunting rifle in the living room not knowing when BLM might bust through the door. You don't get that by electing people that suspend bail and free these terrorists immediately to return to the streets and work their destruction. If the hard left has their way, we won't have police and we won't have a gun to defend ourselves either. You basically will be forbidden to stop and bring to justice any criminal who happens to be black.

It appears that practically the only firm plank on that platform is: "Reelect Trump!"

Do you think voting for Biden is going to help move forward a conservative agenda? This is why I can't understand how people like John Kasich can even call themselves Republicans. Obviously neither he nor Mitt Romney will ever be able to run for any position of siginficance as Republicans again. Real conservatives that disagree with Trump but are committed to conservative principles and furthering the conservative agenda are people like Ted Cruz.