Kyle Rittenhouse -- innocent by self-defense?

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse -- innocent by self-defense?

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Hrm. Let me poke around. This screen cap is when red shirt (pede) was screaming at them to shoot him.

https://ibb.co/68rmj4D

The guy behind them is skateboard guy. Skateboard guy Mr. Huber pled guilty to Felony "Strangulation and Suffocation" (with a Domestic Abuse modifier) and Felony False Imprisonment (with a Domestic Abuse and Use of a Dangerous Weapon modifier).

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Self defense only applies if you're trying to resist arrest.

If you're driving to school and run into a roadblock of BLM protesters then you're already guilty of provocation. Best to let them bash your windows in and drag you out of the car to charge you the price of white privilege. As Gad said, the guy kicked in the face and left unconscious will eventually heal from his wounds. But he can never heal from the legal wounds the leftist court system would impose upon him had he harmed one of his attackers by fighting back.

I wonder if the guy who kicked this man's face in while he was kneeling down has benefited from the no cash bail laws leaving him free to continue the left's reign of terror on the west coast this summer.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse -- innocent by self-defense?

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From what I can tell he was charged with Sexual Conduct with a Minor. https://inmatedatasearch.azcorrections. ... ?ID=172556

A pedophile by definition is an adult who is sexually attracted to children but Rosenbaum was only 18 when he was charged with this crime. Unacceptable to say the least, but details matter when smearing the dead I would think. I keep hearing everyone say "pedophile" as if he had a long history of stalking and raping children.
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Why We’ve Decided to Tell You the Criminal Records of the Men Shot in Kenosha

https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2020/ ... -shooting/
Newly released documents obtained by Wisconsin Right Now from the Pima County (Arizona) Clerk of Courts confirm Rosenbaum was charged by a grand jury with 11 counts of child molestation and inappropriate sexual activity with children, including anal rape. The victims were five boys ranging in age from nine to 11 years old. He was convicted of two amended counts as part of a plea deal. See those documents here.
Use the link in the article. Read the stuff. Nasty. I'd rather not post it. https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2020/ ... r-arizona/
Joseph Don Rosenbaum lived in Kenosha. He had an open case for misdemeanor bail jumping that was filed on July 30, 2020.

The conditions of bond read: “Not to Possess or Consume Alcohol. *Not To Possess or Consume Controlled Substances without a Prescription. No contact including the residence, electronic or 3rd party with: Kariann S, Park Ridge Inn.”

Rosenbaum also had open misdemeanor cases for battery (domestic abuse) and disorderly conduct (domestic abuse).
Blah, blah, blah.
The Arizona inmate page for Rosenbaum through the Department of Corrections there shows multiple violations for things like assaulting staff, throwing substances, assault by weapon, disobeying orders, and so on.

Blah, blah, blah. Still shots.

Gaige Paul Grosskreutz has a forfeiture case for not showing obedience to officers, as well as one for loud noises.

He was convicted of a criminal misdemeanor in 2016 for going armed with a firearm while intoxicated. He gave a West Allis address.

People on social media are alleging that Grosskreutz is a Wisconsin felon. However, he has no felony convictions in the Wisconsin court system. This old archived web page alleges he was arrested on burglary charges, but nothing comes up in the court website for that case.
Blah, blah, blah. Stuff.
Huber had a disorderly conduct conviction from 2018 as a domestic abuse repeater, which is a misdemeanor. He gave a Kenosha address. Here are the charges in that case.

940.19(1) Battery Misd. A Dismissed on Prosecutor’s Motion
Modifier: 939.62(1)(a) Repeater
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse

2 947.01(1) Disorderly Conduct Misd. B Guilty Due to Guilty Plea
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
Modifier: 939.62(1)(a) Repeater

He also had a forfeiture case for possessing drug paraphernalia.

He also had a case from 2012 with these charges:

1 941.30(2) 2nd-Degree Recklessly Endangering Safety Felony G Charge Dismissed but Read In
Modifier: 939.63(1)(c) Use of a Dangerous Weapon
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse

2 940.235(1) Strangulation and Suffocation Felony H Guilty Due to Guilty Plea
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse

3 940.30 False Imprisonment Felony H Guilty Due to Guilty Plea
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
Modifier: 939.63(1)(b) Use of a Dangerous Weapon

4 940.19(1) Battery Misd. A Charge Dismissed but Read In
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
Modifier: 939.63(1)(a) Use of a Dangerous Weapon

5 947.01(1) Disorderly Conduct Misd. B Charge Dismissed but Read In
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
Modifier: 939.63(1)(a) Use of a Dangerous Weapon

6 947.01(1) Disorderly Conduct Misd. B Charge Dismissed but Read In
Modifier: 968.075(1)(a) Domestic Abuse
Rap sheet.
This is Huber’s incarceration history from the Wisconsin Department of Corrections.
Chart incarceration history.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:39 pm
A couple of comments on the video and I'd like to take a crack at picking apart the whole film later just because I'm all sleuthy and sh-it and like doing this. My first impression having gone through the video a couple or three times is that this is something that some of our posters here would passively take as gospel and believe without question. In other words, it's propaganda intended to present Rittenhouse as a community hero.

1. We don't know who really produced the video or why. That will come out in trial if this particular video is used.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:54 am
Newly released documents obtained by Wisconsin Right Now from the Pima County (Arizona) Clerk of Courts confirm Rosenbaum was charged by a grand jury with 11 counts of child molestation and inappropriate sexual activity with children, including anal rape. The victims were five boys ranging in age from nine to 11 years old. He was convicted of two amended counts as part of a plea deal. See those documents here.
Wait, WHAT?

According to this link he was charged with Sexual Conduct with a Minor.

Molestation of a child is a Class 2 felony and is classified as a “Dangerous Crime Against Children,” punishable by imprisonment of between 10 and 24 years for first time offenders. So if he did this with five kids, that's a minimum of 50 years, and 11 counts? He should be there for life. So why did he only serve 10? He obviously didn't get out early because of good behavior.
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First 6:33 minutes of this video. Scott Reisch shows a lengthier video of the interaction, identifies the interview video that Shades posted as being produced by The Daily Caller, and comments on Open Carry in Wisconsin. This looks like the first video commentary that Scott made on Rittenhouse.

Kenosha Wisconsin Updates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U75ihBz ... 1599450192
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Ok. Life happens and I’m back.

Red shirt is Joseph D. Rosenbaum, 36. He had a sex offender registration order in Wisconsin for his Arizona conviction on two counts of Sexual Conduct with a Minor in 2002. Sentenced to 10 years in prison - incarcerated in Arizona from 2002 until paroled in 2012. While in jail he had dozens of disciplinary violations for offences including Assault with a Weapon, Assault on Staff, Arson, and Possession of Narcotics.

It appears from the video that red shirt and skateboard guy might’ve known each other and were aggressively challenging the libertarian militia "protecting" the ‘system’. Red shirt verbally assaults the militia with, “Don't point no motherfucking gun at me [homes.]? [Unintelligible]. [I'll Screw you]? with anything you got. Shoot me n***er. Shoot me n***er. [Bust on me]? n***er. For real."

I’ll see if there’s something more concrete with his record. One sec.

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Jersey Girl wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 3:17 am
First 6:33 minutes of this video. Scott Reisch shows a lengthier video of the interaction, identifies the interview video that Shades posted as being produced by The Daily Caller, and comments on Open Carry in Wisconsin. This looks like the first video commentary that Scott made on Rittenhouse.

Kenosha Wisconsin Updates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U75ihBz ... 1599450192
Second Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2zB6yXsX9E

Third Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvxBDpK_jm0&t=24s
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse -- innocent by self-defense?

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Man, this is a rabbit hole. I found this:

https://www.lacortenews.com/n/court-doc ... ild-rapist

“Rosenbaum has been accused of sexually abusing several minors aged between 9 and 11 years old, according to court documents.“

There’s an affidavit detailing the, uh, accusations in the link above.

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