Kyle Rittenhouse -- innocent by self-defense?

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse -- innocent by self-defense?

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ajax18 wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:11 pm
I guess you could count it as a COVID death:)
This is the first time ever that you have made me laugh. :lol:
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse -- innocent by self-defense?

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Jersey Girl wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:35 am
You're joking, right? Are you saying that you think he'll go for a plea deal or the charges will be dropped? I doubt it. From all I have seen and I've seen a ton, I think he'll face prosecution. Time will tell.
It is the American way. The reason more black people are prosecuted is because big money lawyers aren't typically doing pro bono for them. It is an undeniable fact that chances of acquittal correlates with the amount of money spent on legal defense.

If the charges aren't dropped, he'll be found not guilty.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse -- innocent by self-defense?

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Since falling down on your skateboard is attacking someone with a deadly object, therefore intent to kill, I have another question.

Does slamming someone in the back of the head with a baseball bat constitute attempted murder?

Asking for a friend.

https://Twitter.com/MrOlmos/status/1303 ... 94625?s=20
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Over 100 days of nightly riots, businesses destroyed - looted and burned. 100 days of innocent people being randomly attacked. Scores of videos of innocent members of the public being mob attacked for no reason. And now, uh, Icarus finally finds his voice. NOW there is a pushback to the violence.

*surprised pikachu face* when the Right finally flips their crap to Leftist terrorism.

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Oh, the other day I went back and checked some other articles. My updated timeline is that after the bag was thrown, the pursuit continued until hyper-active bag-throw guy had (nearly?) cornered Kyle and "went for" his gun to disarm him, and that's when he shot. Under that version, the self-defense position gains some ground.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:20 pm
Over 100 days of nightly riots, businesses destroyed - looted and burned. 100 days of innocent people being randomly attacked. Scores of videos of innocent members of the public being mob attacked for no reason. And now, uh, Icarus finally finds his voice. NOW there is a pushback to the violence.

*surprised pikachu face* when the Right finally flips their ____ to Leftist terrorism.

- Doc
I can actually call out right and wrong when I see it on both sides, and I have, unlike you who has done nothing but pretend to be the ultimate scorekeeper while making up lies about your perceived opponents (well, mainly me) and mocking any attempt to draw awareness to legit grievances by BLM and the black community that has had to endure years of systemic racism because of people like, well, people like you who are indifferent to their plight. I don't live in Portland or Chicago so this isn't every day news where I live. But I do have many folks on social media who live there and they're laughing at people like you who keep trying to describe their town as being a war zone every day. At most we're dealing with areas the size of a couple football fields and what you can't seem to get your head around is the fact that the worse acts of violence come right after another cop murders another black person. But in your mind, the problem isn't cops killing black people, it is black people acting like animals (its OK you can say it, we already know that's what you're thinking).

People like you are not only semi-racist trolls, but you're every bit the hypocrite you pretend to detest. Virtually everything you've said of me, you've clearly done in the exact same thread. You expect me to list every time a black person does something wrong otherwise I'm indifferent to what crimes they commit? Yes, you're the same idiot who years ago told me I never really cared about racism or what the black community goes through, and if I did then I'd be "marching in the streets." Ironic, given that is precisely what you're criticizing when they do it. Your awareness is limited only to whatever your corner of the internet tells you some black person did the night before. Your logic says a minority of bad cops do not taint all law enforcement, but on the other hand a tiny minority of rioters taint a protest movement of tens of millions of people. Why? Well, its because of what that B stands for in BLM, of course. Nothing else explains your absolute refusal to acknowledge the legitimacy of their grievances and you're belligerent attitude when anyone mentions them.

Like ajax, it drives you nuts that another white person would actually acknowledge legit grievances of, and side with, BLM. The fact is you've been wrong the entire time, which is why you got a hard on when after 7 months of riots, someone was finally killed by another person who self-identified as Antifa. Up to that point you were simply going along with the exaggeration driven mantra that has hypnotized you in your 4chan orbit, where you clearly pull your "research."
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse -- innocent by self-defense?

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Gadianton wrote:
Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:18 pm
Oh, the other day I went back and checked some other articles. My updated timeline is that after the bag was thrown, the pursuit continued until hyper-active bag-throw guy had (nearly?) cornered Kyle and "went for" his gun to disarm him, and that's when he shot. Under that version, the self-defense position gains some ground.
1. Not sure why people are making a big deal of that bag. First they said it was a Molotov cocktail, then they said it had a brick in it. But you could tell the way it fluttered gently to the ground, it didn't have anything in it that was heavy enough to cause physical harm.

2. Are you saying Rosenbaum was armed with a gun? Or are you saying he went for Kyle's gun? I'm not sure going for someone's gun is grounds for murder, but I'm no lawyer.
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From what I read today, more than 400 businesses have been damaged and over $400 million in damage during the riots. So, the question now needs to be asked.

How much is one black life worth?

Obviously Doc doesn't believe it is worth $400 million, but surely he can put a number on it. His outrage is clearly focused on that and not on black people being arbitrarily murdered by the State.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse -- innocent by self-defense?

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Some Schmo wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 1:48 pm
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Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:44 pm
In your mind, was Kyle Rittenhouse justified in defending his life?
As much as any active shooter gunning down people in the streets has. I mean, the poor guy, just standing around with an illegally obtained weapon trying to off people, because his 17 year old brain has successfully tried and convicted them on the street for being there.
"Standing around. . . trying to off people?" "For being there?" Clearly you didn't watch the video. See: https://banned.video/watch?id=5f52bc97af4ce8069e672e5d
I can't believe there are people choosing to debate this. This is how fu-cking stupid this country's become.
Watch the video, then you'll be able to evaluate why it's debate-worthy.
Icarus wrote:
Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:08 pm
This kid will never be prosecuted because he's white, and is being represented by a rich high powered attorney. This is going to be a classic ending in another chapter of American racism.
The gunslinger, the wife-beater, and the pedophile were white, too, so I don't see how this can be a racist thing. If it's the "rich high powered attorney" aspect on which you're focusing, that also worked for O.J. Simpson, who is black, so it's still not a racism thing.
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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse -- innocent by self-defense?

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[quote=Icarus post_id=1237664 time=1599606661 user_id=19355]
From what I read today, more than 400 businesses have been damaged and over $400 million in damage during the riots. So, the question now needs to be asked.

How much is one black life worth?

Obviously Doc doesn't believe it is worth $400 million, but surely he can put a number on it. His outrage is clearly focused on that and not on black people being arbitrarily murdered by the State.
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I dunno. A 13-year-boy who is autistic and white was just shot in the back by a sperg cop. The city isn’t protesting. Nothing got burned to the ground. People are mad on Reddit, but that’s about it. So. Apparently the number is $400M because when non-POCs are shot by cops people are like, whatevs.

Speaking of spergs, here’s an awesome video that sums up the 7% Riots:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rS9hFJGJXGc

Also, it should be noted if we lose 7% of the US population to Covid that’s ~25,000,000 dead. Not bad!

Eta: When Icarus logs onto the Internet any given day:

https://ibb.co/2tt3DCZ

- Doc
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