The board rules exist for a reason, particularly those regarding private information. Why not privately ask Shades to privately explain them to you in private in the hopes that you privately get it.
If you cared about the rules so much you would have complained when some other posted kept outing my in real life identity, which was a clear violation of the rules. His blatant violation of it and your indifference to it told me the forum no longer exists as one regulated by rules. But when I fight fire with fire, suddenly you're rife with outrage because, "THE RULES!!!" Instead of being consistent with your outrage towards me, you rationalized why it was OK for him to do that. In your mind it was OK because I had posted a photo of me elsewhere on the forum. So, please demonstrate where the rules say it is perfectly OK to out someone's in real life identity by name if they share a photo of themselves. That exception doesn't exist anywhere, you just made it up because you'd rather do that than admit you're a hypocrite.
I created this moniker for a reason. But it has nothing to do with hiding from people on the forum. Any poster here who wouldn't know who I was would have to be a dingbat. However, any outside stalkers trying to hunt me down via my internet activity - which has happened recently - would easily be able to track me here if people keep using my in real life name.
So I have my reasons for using a moniker now, and the rules say nothing about me needing to explain them to you before you abide by the rule.
You've posted your in real life all over this board including stupidly posting an easily recognizable photo of yourself. Your insults directed towards me or anyone else fail to cover up your repeated violations of the rules of this board.
If you choose to create a new moniker because you have reasons for doing so, it would be wise not to post your own in real life including a photographic image of yourself. But wisdom doesn't appear to be one of your strong suits. If someone violates your in real life you should report those posts, not try to one-up them in an attempt to intimidate them with their in real life whether you what you post is accurate or not.
People who do that taint a community like this. You just don't get it, do you? Of course you don't.
I know the in real life of many a poster on these forums. You don't see me disclosing their sh-it just because I don't like what they said to me or if they've challenged me, do you? No, you don't. Do you see me posting your in real life here in these responses where you've leveled misogynist insults my way in an attempt to shut me up? No, you don't.
One of us has character strength and integrity. One of us is bankrupt of both.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Well, none of this is really viable without Keene's permission or willingness to sell the database.
One way or another, we will make this happen. It may not end up getting done in exactly the way we wanted or hoped, but something will be done to overcome the current unacceptable conditions.
I hope so! Keep us posted with ideas as more come to you. I like the idea of the non-profit. I haven't seen anyone else suggest that. I don't know how that would work in reference to an online community but I do post in online communities that are sponsored by non-profits. I guess that is why there would be a need for a board of directors.
I don't know enough about tech issues but I am willing to pitch in with a donation. As for the board of directors, I think you should seek out folks who are in the know about tech and perhaps law. Go from there. I don't see a need to try to draw board members from various community sub-groups. Just find folks who have competency in one or more areas that you all deem necessary, and who are equipped to make objective decisions when the need arises. People who are able to work in collaboration is what I am saying.
Others may disagree. Just my 2 cents there.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
I’d pony up hosting fees. Nbd. I’m sure others would chip in for tech support.
- Doc
Ditto. I'm happy to throw in some shekels.
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
Dude, you are the worst at hiding your identity. No one can post with the level of ineptitude you do nor with anywhere near the level arrogant outrage seasoned with just the mildest amount of virtue signaling.
Whether Icarus, Hawkeye, or KG it has always become obvious who you are.
BUT
what is laughable is that your internet-stalking-doxxing self truly believes that you don't deserve it....even after you share your private information online.
Yet another item on the long list of things you refuse to admit, acknowledge, or atone for.
Karma is a beyotch, ain't it?
I'm not trying to hide from anyone on this forum, and never have been. I just think the double standard as to arbitrarily deciding when the rules matter is pretty ridiculous and no one personifies this better than Jersey Girl.
Anyway, speaking of karma and sucking at remaining anonymous.... I came online 20+ years ago using my real name. So what's your excuse for sucking at remaining anonymous?
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"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
Shades pitched it to him for $500. He never responded.
We have a copy of the database but we're likely not able to transfer it over legally without his permission. And there is some doubt as to whether or not the database we have would properly upload to a new PHPbb system. The offer was payment would be after, and only after, the new board was up and running without problems.
But we may not be able to transfer archived threads, so there is a chance we're talking about just starting a new forum from scratch with new domain name if Keene never responds.
This is always the risk with online forums owned by a single individual. Of course, having things controlled by a board of directors comes with its own problems. I don't know the law on this issue of owning the database. What is the downside of taking the copy of the database and simply setting up with a new site host? I don't know anything about Keane, but it doesn't sound like like he's invested in owning the database. If he takes some kind of action to object, like sending a cease and desist, we can cut some kind of deal with him at that point. Or simply let go of the old posts. We certainly wouldn't be in any worse position than we are today. The situation here seems pretty tenuous. I think it makes sense to take some action to stabilize the situation, and the plan sounds pretty sensible to me.
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
You have no idea what I discuss, where I discuss it, with whom I discuss it or what reports I do/do not make on this board. It's not unlike me to openly and publicly condemn violations when I see them made regardless of who makes them. It's a pity you don't pay attention. Anyone here who knows my in real life protects it as I do theirs. You? You get in a tough spot and you cave.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Of course, having things controlled by a board of directors comes with its own problems. I don't know the law on this issue of owning the database. What is the downside of taking the copy of the database and simply setting up with a new site host?
I suggested this several times, but it was decided by others to give Keene the chance to do the right thing.
I don't know anything about Keane, but it doesn't sound like like he's invested in owning the database.
My thoughts exactly. It is just something that sits on his server and gradually takes up space and bandwidth. Frankly I'm surprised he hasn't deleted it.
If he takes some kind of action to object, like sending a cease and desist, we can cut some kind of deal with him at that point. Or simply let go of the old posts. We certainly wouldn't be in any worse position than we are today. The situation here seems pretty tenuous. I think it makes sense to take some action to stabilize the situation, and the plan sounds pretty sensible to me.
Yeah.
"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
I just had a sinking feeling folks. Is there some way that Shades himself can compile a directory of posters contact information here? I'm thinking in terms of "what if" the board goes down entirely and there's no way to get the word out about a new board? Similar to what recently happened only we had the back up board and could still post the new URL right here.
Should we be encouraging everyone here to register at the back up board to provide for an event such as that? I think half the posters here aren't even aware that a back up board even exists.
It was only a small crowd that ducked in there during the recent interruption.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
You have no idea what I discuss, where I discuss it, with whom I discuss it or what reports I do/do not make on this board. It's not unlike me to openly and publicly condemn violations when I see them made regardless of who makes them. It's a pity you don't pay attention. Anyone here who knows my in real life protects it as I do theirs. You? You get in a tough spot and you cave.
Ah, but your rebuke of someone putting down my wife, who at the time was going through chemotherapy, was, let's just say, minimal at best. And when another poster went off on my wife basically calling her a mail order bride, I don't remember you chiming in until I had retaliated, at which point, I was considered the bad guy again. Because hey, technically it wasn't a rule violation, so let's leave common sense and a sense of decency at the door.
So don't for a damned second pretend you're even handed in your concerns for the rules. And this "you don't know what I say in private" doesn't mean crap when you're only saving your most aggressive outrage to publicly defend posters who inexplicably go after my wife.
And I don't cave, I simply reciprocate.
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"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
My thoughts exactly. It is just something that sits on his server and gradually takes up space and bandwidth. Frankly I'm surprised he hasn't deleted it.
And what if he DOES up and delete it without notice?
No board. No contacts. No sh-it.
As I said in a previous post just now I think that while folks are hashing all this out, we should be encouraging the community to register on the temp/back up board for just that very reason. The lights go out and we're all in the dark. I know some of us would be able to communicate and get something going but it seems like a better idea to at least encourage the use of the temp/back up board.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
