"Greatest Presidential Felony" in History

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We've known for several years now that avid Trump supporters will overlook anything he does. He could fu-ck their kids, violently ass-rape their babies in their presence, and they'd love him for it. If what's been revealed about him in the last week doesn't move them, nothing will.

Of course, these people already elected a known sexual predator, traitor, fraud, liar, authoritarian, incompetent, etc.etc.etc. ad nauseam asshole, so what they'll tolerate has not been surprising for years now. It's not an exaggeration to interpret these people as being ignorant, stupid, malevolent, and insane. What other explanation is there?
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This wasn't just one interview, it was 18 interviews over the course of 8 months. Had Woodward disclosed what was said from the first interview as it happened, then he wouldn't have had further access to Trump for the remaining interviews.
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I keep going back to the explanation that the President didn't want to cause a panic.

Ask yourself: What exactly would such a panic look like? The President knew that the virus had airborne transmission, and believed the fatality rate to be 5%. Was there no way to communicate that information to the American people without causing a panic?

Think of FDR during the Great Depression:
The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.
He then proceeded to give a number of radio broadcasts called 'fireside chats' where he talked candidly with the American people about the problems they were facing.

Donald Trump tweeted that States should be 'liberated' from Covid restrictions. Knowing the virus had airborne transmission, he held rallies where thousands of people gathered without social distancing, the vast majority not wearing masks.

If we are the greatest nation on earth, why was Trump so afraid of communicating the truth? Was there 'panic' in countries like South Korea, where they took the virus seriously? The problem is not that the citizens of the United States could not digest the truth about Covid-19 without panicking. The virus was an inconvenient truth, getting in the way of the Trump campaign narrative.
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ROFL God this orange man is an idiot... and subgenius is taking his cues from him

Trump slams Woodward: If remarks were bad, why didn't he 'immediately report them'

“Bob Woodward had my quotes for many months. If he thought they were so bad or dangerous, why didn’t he immediately report them in an effort to save lives?" Trump tweeted. "Didn’t he have an obligation to do so? No, because he knew they were good and proper answers. Calm, no panic!”
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MeDotOrg wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:13 pm
I keep going back to the explanation that the President didn't want to cause a panic.

Ask yourself: What exactly would such a panic look like? The President knew that the virus had airborne transmission, and believed the fatality rate to be 5%. Was there no way to communicate that information to the American people without causing a panic?

Think of FDR during the Great Depression:
The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.
He then proceeded to give a number of radio broadcasts called 'fireside chats' where he talked candidly with the American people about the problems they were facing.

Donald Trump tweeted that States should be 'liberated' from Covid restrictions. Knowing the virus had airborne transmission, he held rallies where thousands of people gathered without social distancing, the vast majority not wearing masks.

If we are the greatest nation on earth, why was Trump so afraid of communicating the truth? Was there 'panic' in countries like South Korea, where they took the virus seriously? The problem is not that the citizens of the United States could not digest the truth about Covid-19 without panicking. The virus was an inconvenient truth, getting in the way of the Trump campaign narrative.

It is hilarious that the man who tried to get Alabama scared about a hurricane that was never going to hit it, is suddenly worried about panic. The man who got an entire country in a frenzy about supposed caravans coming from Mexico, the man who is now trying to scare middle-class suburban white women about minorities invading their neighborhoods, the man who campaigned on fear and panic about invading foreigners, etc. That's the guy who doesn't want to cause panic?

What he really meant is he didn't want to panic the stock market.
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Right on cue, FOX News' Laura Ingraham is making his about the evil media "fulminating" about the new "book" because Trump "allegedly" downplayed the virus.

ALEGEDLY!?? It isn't just a book you half wit, it is on audio tape.

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MeDotOrg wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:13 pm
I keep going back to the explanation that the President didn't want to cause a panic.

Ask yourself: What exactly would such a panic look like? The President knew that the virus had airborne transmission, and believed the fatality rate to be 5%. Was there no way to communicate that information to the American people without causing a panic?
Andrew Cuomo managed to do it. I'm not saying he is free of screw ups. But he has consistently communicated the science to the state of NY and continues to do so to this very day. In fact, he ripped into Trump just earlier this week for not closing the door to travel on the East Coast because THAT'S how the virus spread like wildfire throughout the Tri State area and likely throughout much of the country in the beginning of this mess. While he closed the door to the West Coast, he left the East Coast twisting in the wind and wide open!

In any case, it's not just that he failed to communicate the information that he had. He outright misled the American publicly by promoting the OPPOSITE of that information up to and including fudging the numbers, failing to prepare, and on record shaming/ridiculing people who wear masks--the very measure that along with social distancing is our first line of defense against the virus. When he knew the numbers, he knew the dangers and he knew that the virus was airborne transmissible!

He asked a flipping reporter to take off his mask just this week!

He didn't give a damn about panic within communities, not grocery stores, not supplies, not schools, not nursing homes, not anything. He gave a damn about panic on Wall Street and I am pretty sure that's a damn fact because it fits with everything else he's done or failed to do. Only this actually involved him slaughtering the American public by the thousands.

We, the American public, weren't apprised of the seriousness of the virus until we were already ass deep in dead bodies. And keep in mind, that all this time, he's had top of the line protections for HIMSELF to ensure his own preservation!
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We've known for several years now that avid Trump supporters will overlook anything he does. He could fu-ck their kids, violently ass-rape their babies in their presence, and they'd love him for it. If what's been revealed about him in the last week doesn't move them, nothing will.

Of course, these people already elected a known sexual predator, traitor, fraud, liar, authoritarian, incompetent, etc.etc.etc. ad nauseam asshole, so what they'll tolerate has not been surprising for years now. It's not an exaggeration to interpret these people as being ignorant, stupid, malevolent, and insane. What other explanation is there?
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You know how scammers make their scams intentionally dumb so only the biggest fools fall for it? That's Trumpism in a nutshell. Trumpism is the hand written sign next to the road promising you $10,000/month working from home. Take subjenius, for example. He likes to trot out Hunter Biden whenever he’s feeling whatabout-smart. It never occurs to the fool if there was something actually there the DoJ would’ve filed charges by now. Doesn’t matter. Nothing matters. He and the rest of his kind don’t understand anything about our Republic, functionally speaking, and is simply into Trump because of the tingles. Literally the tingles. He tingles when Fox News spouts their BS. He tingles when Trump tweets out a lie. The GOP is akin to the WWE, and Trump is their tingle maker spouting gibberish into a mic and then throwing a chair at the villainous Lib. Friday Night Smackdown.

That’s it. That’s all there is to it.

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Came across this while viewing a video.

“overstate to make a point—warned, civilization could have disappeared within a few more weeks. So the final lesson of 1918, a simple one yet one most difficult to execute, is that those who occupy positions of authority must lessen the panic that can alienate all within a society. Society cannot function if it is every man for himself. By definition, civilization cannot survive that. Those in authority must retain the public’s trust. The way to do that is to distort nothing, to put the best face on nothing, to try to manipulate no one. Lincoln said that first, and best. A leader must make whatever horror exists concrete. Only then will people be able to break it apart.”
― John M. Barry, The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History

There are others I found that I think are relevant to this expose' and the mishandling of the pandemic by the Trump administration. There are SO many. I'm choosing these. All those I found could have been written about 2020.

“Yet institutions are human as well. They reflect the cumulative personalities of those within them, especially their leadership. They tend, unfortunately, to mirror less admirable human traits, developing and protecting self-interest and even ambition. Institutions almost never sacrifice. Since they live by rules, they lack spontaneity. They try to order chaos not in the way an artist or scientist does, through a defining vision that creates structure and discipline, but by closing off and isolating themselves from that which does not fit. They become bureaucratic.”
― John M. Barry, The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History

“Emerson said that an institution is the lengthened shadow of one man,”
― John M. Barry, The Great Influenza: The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/search ... mit=Search
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