Kyle Rittenhouse -- innocent by self-defense?

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Re: Kyle Rittenhouse -- innocent by self-defense?

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:55 am
https://ibb.co/RvmtGrY

“A pistol isn’t even that deadly anyways.”
I strongly believe that the person who wrote that was using sarcasm against the list-compiler who conveniently left out the fact that one of Rittenhouse's assailants was holding a gun.
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Does anyone know what led to the crowd chasing this kid? Did he point his gun at them prior to the chase? In other words is there anything that has come out pre-tape that would shed any light on the self-defense issue?

I also have a problem with a 17 year old kid openly carrying an AR 15 in the middle of an Antifa demonstration. What was he thinking? What possible good could have happened here? Has the media interviewed the parents to get their views? Are they proud of their boy? I'd probably want to kick his ass if I were his parent.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 3:55 am
https://ibb.co/RvmtGrY

“A pistol isn’t even that deadly anyways.”

I would ask the potential jury if they post on Reddit, and then move to dismiss them.

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I would garner that a pistol, and pistols, are mostly peaceful +95% of the time.
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Dr Exiled wrote:
Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:46 pm
Does anyone know what led to the crowd chasing this kid?
I don't "know," but I strongly believe that the reason is this: Wolves of North America take down their targeted prey by first isolating it from its herd. Cheetahs, lions, and other predators of the African savanna instinctively chase anything that runs away from it; it doesn't matter if the particular animal is on "the menu" or not. In this case, the mob saw that Rittenhouse had A) separated himself from the other armed individuals as he went to put out the fire, and that B) he was running away from them, so like the aforementioned mindless beasts they acted on pure instinct.
I also have a problem with a 17 year old kid openly carrying an AR 15 in the middle of an Antifa demonstration. What was he thinking?
He was probably thinking that he didn't have a concealed carry permit, so he could only open carry.
What possible good could have happened here?
The "good" is that he could've defended himself from death or serious bodily injury if he was attacked as he attempted to render medical aid or douse fires--which is precisely what happened.
Has the media interviewed the parents to get their views? Are they proud of their boy? I'd probably want to kick his ass if I were his parent.
You wouldn't be happy that he wasn't dead or in a coma?
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Dr Exiled: "I also have a problem with a 17 year old kid openly carrying an AR 15 in the middle of an Antifa demonstration. What was he thinking? "

Didn't he at some point say he was there to protect the stores? Suppose I go there with the intent to loot. If he's there to protect the stores with an AR-15, then I can rightfully infer that he plans to use deadly force to stop me, which puts my life at risk, and is illegal.
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Gadianton wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:01 am
Didn't he at some point say he was there to protect the stores? Suppose I go there with the intent to loot. If he's there to protect the stores with an AR-15, then I can rightfully infer that he plans to use deadly force to stop me, which puts my life at risk, and is illegal.
Which is the point I made several times. You can say you're defending your own life with a gun, you cannot defend private property with a gun unless the law allows you to shoot someone who is damaging it. The law does not allow that, so his stated intent was to break the law.
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Update on the survivor, who turns out is a paramedic. He says he's been receiving many death threats from Kyle's supporters and he's not ANTIFA.

https://nowthisnews.com/news/kenosha-sh ... th-threats
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Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:53 pm
The points you bring up, true though they are, are nevertheless entirely irrelevant to the applicability of the above sentence. . . and the focus of this thread.
This is the kind of thinking that allows a burglar to sue a house owner because he fell through the skylight and landed on a knife on the kitchen counter.

This fu-cking kid was in the middle of committing a crime. People saw that, and tried to prevent it. His crime is entirely relevant.

You should stop watching idiotic right wing propaganda, Shades.
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Gadianton wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:01 am
Dr Exiled: "I also have a problem with a 17 year old kid openly carrying an AR 15 in the middle of an Antifa demonstration. What was he thinking? "

Didn't he at some point say he was there to protect the stores? Suppose I go there with the intent to loot. If he's there to protect the stores with an AR-15, then I can rightfully infer that he plans to use deadly force to stop me, which puts my life at risk, and is illegal.
Um, nope.
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