Battery Day and the future of Electric Vehicles

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Battery Day and the future of Electric Vehicles

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Yesterday was Battery Day for Tesla and Elon Musk. For electric car geeks, this is a little like Steve Jobs doing a World Wide product launch. Elon has a showman's vocabulary, where everything is 'unreal' or 'insane' (a la Steve Jobs' saying 'insanely great').

As fitting an automotive product launch in the middle of a pandemic, Elon spoke in front of a movie screen to a throng of Teslas (Tesli?) at a Drive-in movie. Instead of applauding, people honked their horns.

Battery day was not filled with sexy announcements. Most of the products announced are in the pipeline and won't be seen for another 3 years or so. But the announcements point to the long-term viability of Tesla.
  • 'Tesla will produce its own batteries in-house using a 'Tabless Battery' technology that will make batteries 6 times more powerful and increase range by 15%.
  • Tesla will also have its own Cathode plant, which is said to reduce costs by 76%. It also plans to eliminate the use of cobalt in cathodes.
  • Tesla Model S Plaid Edition: $142,000. 0-60 in <2 seconds. Standing ¼ mile in <10 seconds. Over 500 miles of range.
At $142,000 the Plaid S seems like a bit of a party piece, but consider this: As the quickest production car in the world, It is faster to 60 mph than a Bugatti Chiron, which costs $2,900,000. To quote Elon Musk, that's insane. More important to the consumer is getting over 500 miles of range.

When you consider that the electric automobile industry is in its infancy, the amount of technological progress that will take place in this decade will really start to move the cost/performance benefit towards electric cars. Tesla is taking huge strides in reducing costs, from more efficient production techniques (the largest stamping machine in the world) to the design and manufacture of battery components in-house, reducing costs and streamlining the supply chain. By the year 2030 technology should enable the production of a $25,000 electric car with great performance and good range. I know Musk can be opinionated and arrogant, but he could end up being the most important person in automotive history since Henry Ford.
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Re: Battery Day and the future of Electric Vehicles

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My mother and father in law both drive Teslas, and I have been really impressed with them. If I ever purchase another car, it will be an electric something, and Musk has blazed a helluva trail in that department.
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I love what Musk and his Tesla company are doing. It is an important part of the solution to achieving a sustainable, environmentally benign and green economy, and mitigating undesirable climate change. It makes no sense at all to be opposed to this, unless one is deeply invested in the production and sale of fossil fuels, which is the sole reason why Trump and his hard right associates and enablers, and their immensely wealthy fossil fuel industry donors are so adamantly opposed to it, and spend literally billions of dollars on disinformation campaigns to discourage it.

If you haven't already, please take a good look at what the Rocky Mountain Institute (RMI) has to say about this. They present a very strong case that transitioning to green, sustainable technology is ultimately far more profitable and economically viable, in the long run, than business as usual that relies massively on burning fossil fuels, and is undeniably better for our planet and its inhabitants.
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Re: Battery Day and the future of Electric Vehicles

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Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Sep 23, 2020 8:08 pm
My mother and father in law both drive Teslas, and I have been really impressed with them. If I ever purchase another car, it will be an electric something, and Musk has blazed a helluva trail in that department.
Yeah, why would any reasonable person be opposed to this? They not only save money in fuel costs, require almost no regular preventive maintenance like oil and fluid changes (other than servicing of their HVAC systems, and cabin filter changes), their brake pads last an immensely long time, because of regenerative braking, etc. Of course their tires still wear down and have to be periodically replaced.

From watching some of the videos I have seen about them, they also much more fun to drive. My relatives back in Norway are buying Teslas, because according to Norwegian law, they don't have to pay the 105% sales tax imposed on less environmentally friendly, gasoline powered cars. And they love their Tesla!
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