Trump Cowardly Backs Out of 2nd Debate

[_Jersey Girl]

Hey guys I read an article online that says one way to guarantee a Biden-Harris win would be for GWB to come out in support of them.

Would that really help push people over the line towards voting for the democratic ticket? And if so, how so? Is it because he's the only living Republican former President left to speak out and his supporters are likely still living and therefore eligible to vote? Is that why people are saying that GWB could pull Republican voters over to the other side for this election?

[_Gunnar]

It is my understanding that GWB has already stated that he is voting for Biden-Harris.

[_Gunnar]

If the claimed results of this poll were even a remotely valid indication of how well Trump is doing, why is Biden's lead in the polling stronger than ever, and still growing? Nationally, he now has a comfortable two digit lead, and is statistically within in reach of achieving a landslide, 400 vote Electoral College victory! He only needs 270 Electoral College votes to win!

Um...I don't think we should get out too far over our skis here. Hardly anyone with a brain here on the forum or in the media ever thought Trump would win 2016.

I'm just saying, Gunnar.

And regardless the outcome of the election, I think that it's going to be a rocky road to anything resembling a return to stability in this country.

To be sure! But I am still optimistic that Trump will still lose by a landslide, because he is becoming increasingly irrational, and evidently can't refrain from stupid acts and comments that further discredit him in the minds of reasonable people. He is more than ever showing himself to be his own worst enemy. If he manages to "win", it will only be because he and his minions have succeeded in suppressing enough votes to rig the election in his favor. His army of lawyers deployed to many states are already suing to prevent mail-in ballots from being counted. Even if he loses all of these nuisance lawsuits, the delay that they cause may help insure an apparent "win" for him, which, I am sure, is the main, if not sole, intent of all this litigation.

Winning by intimidation through litigation has always been one of his main negotiation tactics all through his corrupt business career. Even when he lost some of these litigations, the mere delays caused by them were turned to his advantage, which was often their whole point.

[_Jersey Girl]

It is my understanding that GWB has already stated that he is voting for Biden-Harris.

All I have seen is material indicating that he says he won't support Trump. I haven't seen anything where he says he's voting for Biden-Harris.

I'll keep digging.

In the mean time, what impact do you think a straightforward announcement that he supports Biden-Harris and encourages other Republicans to do the same would have on the election?

(Can you believe it's even me writing these posts? Never in all these years have I engaged in political discussions. Yet, here I am.)

[_Jersey Girl]

George W. Bush won’t be at the Republican National Convention this year, just as he did not appear at the 2016 election nominating Donald Trump as the GOP nominee four years ago.

It’s an open secret that the former president and his family, including former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who was beaten by Trump in the 2016 GOP primary, don’t support their party’s president.

But the question looming over the 2020 general election is whether Bush could do the unimaginable: cross party lines and endorse Joe Biden.


A number of Republicans have done so, including Colin Powell, Bush’s former secretary of State, who appeared at the Democratic convention last week to back Biden. On Monday, former Sen. Jeff Flake (Ariz.) and dozens of other former GOP members of Congress announced they would back Biden.

“More than ever, I know it’s on a lot of people’s minds,” said one longtime Bush aide. “These are unprecedented times and a lot of people think it makes sense.”

The adviser pointed to the recent Republican endorsements of Biden from the likes of Powell, former GOP Govs. John Kasich of Ohio and Christine Todd Whitman of New Jersey, former eBay and Hewlett-Packard Enterprise CEO Meg Whitman and former GOP Reps. Charlie Dent (Pa.) and Susan Molinari (N.Y.).

Last month, a number of former Bush White House and campaign officials also launched a super PAC called “43 Alumni for Biden” to help mobilize Republicans who are “dismayed and disappointed by the damage done to our nation by Donald Trump’s presidency.”

“So why not W?” the aide said, echoing what's been said from both Republicans and Democrats.

Behind the scenes, some Biden allies have been reaching out through back channels to friends in the Bush universe to see if an endorsement would ever happen — or if it’s just a pipe dream.


“We tried a little unofficially to see if there was a way to make it happen, but we couldn’t get there,” said one Biden ally. “And I do think it would make a difference, because we’ve learned every vote counts.”

Bush also learned that lesson during the 2000 election when he defeated former Vice President Al Gore by 537 votes after a rare recount effort in Florida where election officials closely examined each and every ballot.

But Bush has refrained from criticizing Trump and rarely enters the political arena. Freddy Ford, a spokesman for Bush said “it is not in the cards” for the former president to endorse Biden.

“We’ve been quite clear and consistent — President Bush is retired from presidential politics and will not be weighing in,” Ford said in an email to The Hill.

Bush hasn’t remained on the sidelines altogether. Last week, he endorsed Republican Sen. Susan Collins, who is in a tight reelection battle in Maine, where the Bush family has had a residence in Kennebunkport.

Speaking about that endorsement, a longtime Bush adviser said the family has “known her for years. In a lot of ways she is their senator.”

But the adviser also said endorsing Biden or speaking in opposition in Trump isn’t Bush’s style

“I could never see him step out openly against another president,” the adviser said. “He lives by the mantra that he didn't like it when he was in office and he’s not going to do it when he’s out of office.

“When you’re off the stage, you’re off the stage,” the adviser added.

At the same time, a nod from the former president is largely unnecessary, another longtime aide said.

“A non-endorsement [of Trump] is message enough,” the aide said. “To me that's sufficient.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5 ... our-breath

[_subgenius]

[_subgenius]

1.) Biden mistakenly and very clearly says "breast"
2.) Biden misreads his teleprompter twice, first calling for a $15 million minimum wage, then a $15,000 minimum wage, before finally getting it right.
3.) Biden removes his mask to cough in his hand.

Check the video evidence.
https://notthebee.com/article/please-en ... QmiycZR3SI

[_ajax18]

In the mean time, what impact do you think a straightforward announcement that he supports Biden-Harris and encourages other Republicans to do the same would have on the election?

He might win as many votes as his brother Jeb did in the 2016 presidential primaries. But it would be classic to see GWB cuddle up close to the left wing media who if they had their way would have put him in the Hague serving a lifelong prison sentence for war crimes.

including Colin Powell, Bush’s former secretary of State

Big deal. He voted for Obama over Mitt Romney in 2012.

Jeff Flake (Ariz.) and dozens of other former GOP members of Congress announced they would back Biden.

Another RINO who couldn't win a Republican primary election to become a dog catcher.

[_Jersey Girl]

In the mean time, what impact do you think a straightforward announcement that he supports Biden-Harris and encourages other Republicans to do the same would have on the election?

He might win as many votes as his brother Jeb did in the 2016 presidential primaries. But it would be classic to see GWB cuddle up close to the left wing media who if they had their way would have put him in the Hague serving a lifelong prison sentence for war crimes.

We're not talking about the effing media. I'm talking about his possible influence on the electorate.

[_Gunnar]

Joe Biden is certainly not without flaws. There are a number of people I would have rather seen running against Trump than Biden, but even he is preferable to the malignant, openly corrupt, would-be absolute tyrant who now occupies the Whitehouse.