NEED A TRANSPLANT? BETTER GET VACCINATED

[Some Schmo]

Some US patients waiting for organ transplants must get Covid vaccine or be removed from list

I think this is great. Some in the medical community are basically saying, "If you don't trust medical science enough to get vaccinated, you shouldn't trust them to replace an organ, either."

Obviously, that's not the stated reason. From the article:

“Transplant patients are much more vulnerable to infection,” Dr Camille Kotton, clinical director of transplant and immunocompromised host infectious diseases at the Massachusetts General hospital, told the Guardian in an email, “and transplant patients are among the higher risk for developing severe life-threatening Covid-19.”

They should be taken off the list. Why should some donor's organs be used on people willing to compromise their health when it could go to someone who takes care of him/herself? The lady in the article says it's for religious reasons. Well, good: let god cure your kidney. Quit bugging doctors who could be helping less ridiculously skeptical people.

Somewhat related, I also happen to think that organ donor's should be at the top of any organ waiting list. If you can't be bothered to allow your organs to be donated to the rest of humanity, you don't deserve to benefit from someone else's donation (or at least, your name should go to the bottom of the priority list).

[Jersey Girl]

Some US patients waiting for organ transplants must get Covid vaccine or be removed from list

I think this is great. Some in the medical community are basically saying, "If you don't trust medical science enough to get vaccinated, you shouldn't trust them to replace an organ, either."

Obviously, that's not the stated reason. From the article:

“Transplant patients are much more vulnerable to infection,” Dr Camille Kotton, clinical director of transplant and immunocompromised host infectious diseases at the Massachusetts General hospital, told the Guardian in an email, “and transplant patients are among the higher risk for developing severe life-threatening Covid-19.”

They should be taken off the list. Why should some donor's organs be used on people willing to compromise their health when it could go to someone who takes care of him/herself? The lady in the article says it's for religious reasons. Well, good: let god cure your kidney. Quit bugging doctors who could be helping less ridiculously skeptical people.

Somewhat related, I also happen to think that organ donor's should be at the top of any organ waiting list. If you can't be bothered to allow your organs to be donated to the rest of humanity, you don't deserve to benefit from someone else's donation (or at least, your name should go to the bottom of the priority list).

This is yet another development that I am utterly and completely on board with. Finally, companies and industries are getting real. I recall, in the past 2 weeks or so, a grieving husband whose wife had to be discharged on account of Covid patients and who died from her cancer shortly there after, saying to the effect---if you don't trust medical science to develop a safe and effective vaccine, then why do you go to a damned hospital when you get sick?

And yes, he said damned. And no, I don't blame him. He made absolute good sense in his statement.

Organ donation is a precious commodity if you will accept that description, why should doctors implant donated organs into a patient who isn't going to properly care for the environment they want it implanted into? Seriously...I doubt that society can afford to squander such a precious thing and we shouldn't.

[Jersey Girl]

I need to spout off but I won't belabor the rant. Perhaps most of us on this board did what we believed was right to do during this pandemic. When we were told to stay home, we hunkered down. When we were told to mask up, we masked up. And finally, when the vaccines were released under EUA, we stepped up and we got vaccinated. Speaking only for myself, I got vaxxed out of a sense of self preservation and social obligation. I wanted to be a part of ending this blasted pandemic. For myself, my family, for the community, and ultimately for the good of the country.

in my opinion, the only reason the numbers of vaccinated persons are going up and we are right now looking dead on at turning the corner on getting Covid under control is exactly and irrefutably on account of the mandates issued by the new Administration and all the businesses and industries that are throwing down the gauntlet by following suit.

If people can't bring themselves to get vaccinated, then by god make them pay for testing on a regular basis and raise their freaking health insurance rates because they are costing everyone money with their BS. My attitude is that I did everything I could to contribute and if you didn't, then you can pay out the ass for it because this woman has been waiting to be set fully free for over a year and a half now and I'm sick and damn tired of all the BS excuses.

Hit them where it hurts, hit them hard, and leave the rest of us the hell alone. I did everything right and I want my damned freedom back!

[Jersey Girl]

OMFG!

What is that? A shocked reaction? Why? Is this the first time you're hearing about this? It's been in the news a couple or three days now. Why don't you know about it? Is this board your primary news source? Do you rely on Schmo to bring you the news?

Listen, save your shock and horror act, and your lack of conversational skills, for someone who gives a damn.

[Doctor Steuss]

This may be a rather naïve question, but wouldn’t the immunosuppressive therapy that generally accompanies transplants negate any benefits of a vaccination?

[Gadianton]

This may be a rather naïve question, but wouldn’t the immunosuppressive therapy that generally accompanies transplants negate any benefits of a vaccination?

A good thought.

http://antimicrobe.org/new/t20_my wife.html

This breaks it down. Vaccinating pre-transplant is standard practice long before Sars-Cov-2.

[Doctor Steuss]

A good thought.

http://antimicrobe.org/new/t20_my wife.html

This breaks it down. Vaccinating pre-transplant is standard practice long before Sars-Cov-2.

Thank you Gad. Could you double-check your link, please? It's not pulling up for me.

[Gadianton]

The link is valid. The site is only http so you may be getting a security error with your browser. Looks like the site is old; all the references are pre 2000. The site is half dead. Well, this is standard practice for at least 20 years.

An anti-vaxxer who is okay with organ transplants is a walking contradiction.

[Jersey Girl]

Just for the record, the chances of me doing everything right is exactly zero.

No crap, right.

[Chap]

Heh!

You can immunise yourselves against Cultellitis by putting the carrier on ignore. Reduces the irritation at once.