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[Kishkumen]

More like, ‘sorry, but not unexpected’.

The same folks who’d call Babbitt an unjustly murdered martyr have also called Kyle Rittenhouse a hero for firing into an angry crowd of protesters in the open and killing two people, and make no excuses for the dead there.

And what is especially shocking about the latter is that Rittenhouse had absolutely no business playing vigilante. That should not even be a question. Babbitt was taking on law enforcement officers with the goal of harming or kidnapping members of Congress or the Vice President. Those who shot her were doing their duty. This really isn't so hard. Let's see what would have happened if she had been a Black man jumping through the driver's side window of his car at a state trooper. Yeah, we can guess what would have likely happened, but suddenly the people complaining about it would be a much different set of folks. Those raising a stink about Babbitt now would be defending the officer's decision to use deadly force.

[Cultellus]

So. Sorry, not sorry?

Not nearly as quick on the draw as the guy exploiting the Rust tragedy.

Is this a code for something? Who and what and how?

[Cultellus]

And what is especially shocking about the latter is that Rittenhouse had absolutely no business playing vigilante. That should not even be a question. Babbitt was taking on law enforcement officers with the goal of harming or kidnapping members of Congress or the Vice President. Those who shot her were doing their duty. This really isn't so hard. Let's see what would have happened if she had been a Black man jumping through the driver's side window of his car at a state trooper. Yeah, we can guess what would have likely happened, but suddenly the people complaining about it would be a much different set of folks. Those raising a stink about Babbitt now would be defending the officer's decision to use deadly force.

Yeah. You definitely win the hypotheticals and stereotype contest here.

The only person you have referenced here that was in their workplace and in a professional role was the Babbitt shooter. You did clarify that.

Lots of facts to consider. Hypotheticals are fun puzzles too I guess.

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Those who shot [Babbitt] were doing their duty. This really isn't so hard. Let's see what would have happened if she had been a Black man jumping through the driver's side window of his car at a state trooper. Yeah, we can guess what would have likely happened, but suddenly the people complaining about it would be a much different set of folks. Those raising a stink about Babbitt now would be defending the officer's decision to use deadly force.

People violently smashed through the armoured glass in a barricaded door leading into the Speaker's Corridor, the last line of defense for the Congress people beyond. Then Babbit started to force her way through the opening. What was the officer on the other side of the barricade, alone at the time, supposed to do as the first representative of the violent mob on the other side of the door started to squeeze through? Say "Here ma'am let me help you down. Who's next ..."? It was his duty to shoot to protect the members of Congress he was sworn to protect with his life. And he did his duty.

[Cultellus]

Those who shot [Babbitt] were doing their duty. This really isn't so hard. Let's see what would have happened if she had been a Black man jumping through the driver's side window of his car at a state trooper. Yeah, we can guess what would have likely happened, but suddenly the people complaining about it would be a much different set of folks. Those raising a stink about Babbitt now would be defending the officer's decision to use deadly force.

People violently smashed through the armoured glass in a barricaded door leading into the Speaker's Corridor, the last line of defense for the Congress people beyond. Then Babbit started to force her way through the opening. What was the officer on the other side of the barricade, alone at the time, supposed to do as the first representative of the violent mob on the other side of the door started to squeeze through? Say "Here ma'am let me help you down. Who's next ..."? It was his duty to shoot to protect the members of Congress he was sworn to protect with his life. And he did his duty.

In this example we have a hypothetical that is easily tossed or rejected. Of course, the officer would not assist in helping the intruder intrude. So that hypothetical is used as a way to reject a dumbass option. Nice move. Well played and said. Good job.

[canpakes]

What was the officer on the other side of the barricade, alone at the time, supposed to do as the first representative of the violent mob on the other side of the door started to squeeze through?

I suppose that he could have just booped her nose.

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[Cultellus]

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LMFAO.

I saw that.

[Some Schmo]

I suppose since arguing on behalf of Trump and his fans requires lying (given they have no reasonable defense/the truth is against them), it's no surprise Trump fans never argue in good faith.

There is no point arguing with a Trump fan. In fact, I'd say it's detrimental. By arguing with them, you're giving them the base credibility that comes with a topic deemed "arguable." Most of their defenses don't rise to that level. They're usually idiotic arguments that only deserve to be ignored with an eyeroll.

[Cultellus]

I suppose since arguing on behalf of Trump and his fans requires lying (given they have no reasonable defense/the truth is against them), it's no surprise Trump fans never argue in good faith.

There is no point arguing with a Trump fan. In fact, I'd say it's detrimental. By arguing with them, you're giving them the base credibility that comes with a topic deemed "arguable." Most of their defenses don't rise to that level. They're usually idiotic arguments that only deserve to be ignored with an eyeroll.

What about agreeing with a Trump fan? Seems like you have a hard line on that too, regardless of the facts.