Remembering Building 7

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Re: Remembering Building 7

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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:11 pm
BeNotDeceived wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:50 pm
I'll just say there's a reason planes have to fly over 30,000 feet at 500 mph.
Probably so they don't crash into buildings.

Incidentally, I looked up the actual spec tables for a 767. Mach 0.86 is its maximum. At sea level, that’s 655 mph.

Operationally you’d have some really big problems (if you weren’t trying to crash it), but integrity-wise, you’d be well below thresholds.
https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/airplane/drag1.html
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Snazzip wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:04 pm
BeNotDeceived wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:45 pm

Are you serious? Maybe because that's what color they were under the microscope. 😅🤦‍♂️
Well then screw building 7, Jones deserves a freaking Nobel prize for getting a color image from an electron microscope when he supposedly did.
BND, please address this. And also please address my question earlier.

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Re: Remembering Building 7

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BeNotDeceived wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:16 pm
Link and run snipped
As a reminder to BND, linking and running is verboten. You need to explain the what’s what when linking a video, and typically it’s good form to tell us what timestamp is the money shot.

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BeNotDeceived wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:04 pm
K Graham wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:56 pm
Richard Gage is a moron.
Is he a moron because you can't handle the truth? And if someone like him is a moron, what does that make you?
He's a moron because he is, and so are you for constantly throwing bogus claims of "basic physics" at us when neither of you don't even understand what the laws of physics are. Consider this moronic statement from Gage: ""It takes 2,800 degrees to begin to melt steel. It takes 4,000 degrees Fahrenheit to evaporate it. Did that heat come from those few, small, scattered fires? We don’t think so. "

Whoever said the steel framing had to be "melted" in order for the building to collapse? I mean this is just pure stupidity at work here. Here is a blacksmith demonstrating how heated steel loses more than 70% of its integrity at 1500 degrees. This is why the building didn't collapses immediately. It took some time for the fires to spread and heat the steel beams.

For the undying 9/11 MORONIC JET FUEL ARGUMENT

In your convoluted worldview, there were mysterious Americans who had somehow managed to strategically plant explosives in a building that would be attacked by terrorists. Why? No one has been able to explain the logic in this. By blow up a building you know is already being attacked? In your idiotic scenario, for whatever inexplicable reason conspirators forgot the flip the switch to set off the explosives just as the planes hit. No, they were sleeping on the job we can only assume. Meanwhile, we're supposed to believe that a government that leaks information like a sieve is somehow able to guarantee the silence of the thousands of government officials who had to be behind such a massive campaign.

Yes, you're all damned morons.
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K Graham wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:19 pm
BeNotDeceived wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:04 pm

Is he a moron because you can't handle the truth? And if someone like him is a moron, what does that make you?
He's a moron because he is, and so are you for constantly throwing bogus claims of "basic physics" at us when neither of you don't even understand what the laws of physics are. Consider this moronic statement from Gage: ""It takes 2,800 degrees to begin to melt steel. It takes 4,000 degrees Fahrenheit to evaporate it. Did that heat come from those few, small, scattered fires? We don’t think so. "

Whoever said the steel framing had to be "melted" in order for the building to collapse? I mean this is just pure stupidity at work here. Here is a blacksmith demonstrating how heated steel loses more than 70% of its integrity at 1500 degrees. This is why the building didn't collapses immediately. It took some time for the fires to spread and heat the steel beams.

For the undying 9/11 MORONIC JET FUEL ARGUMENT

In your convoluted worldview, there were mysterious Americans who had somehow managed to strategically plant explosives in a building that would be attacked by terrorists. Why? No one has been able to explain the logic in this. By blow up a building you know is already being attacked? In your idiotic scenario, for whatever inexplicable reason conspirators forgot the flip the switch to set off the explosives just as the planes hit. No, they were sleeping on the job we can only assume. Meanwhile, we're supposed to believe that a government that leaks information like a sieve is somehow able to guarantee the silence of the thousands of government officials who had to be behind such a massive campaign.

Yes, you're all damned morons.
If we were in a court of law and I was presenting my evidence and you yours, you'd be laughed out of the courtroom. You, sir, need to go back and re-take physics 101, or 099, that's how ignorant you are.
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Did people not get the damned memo about linking and running? C’mon, guys.

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BeNotDeceived wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:27 pm
K Graham wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:19 pm


He's a moron because he is, and so are you for constantly throwing bogus claims of "basic physics" at us when neither of you don't even understand what the laws of physics are. Consider this moronic statement from Gage: ""It takes 2,800 degrees to begin to melt steel. It takes 4,000 degrees Fahrenheit to evaporate it. Did that heat come from those few, small, scattered fires? We don’t think so. "

Whoever said the steel framing had to be "melted" in order for the building to collapse? I mean this is just pure stupidity at work here. Here is a blacksmith demonstrating how heated steel loses more than 70% of its integrity at 1500 degrees. This is why the building didn't collapses immediately. It took some time for the fires to spread and heat the steel beams.

For the undying 9/11 MORONIC JET FUEL ARGUMENT

In your convoluted worldview, there were mysterious Americans who had somehow managed to strategically plant explosives in a building that would be attacked by terrorists. Why? No one has been able to explain the logic in this. By blow up a building you know is already being attacked? In your idiotic scenario, for whatever inexplicable reason conspirators forgot the flip the switch to set off the explosives just as the planes hit. No, they were sleeping on the job we can only assume. Meanwhile, we're supposed to believe that a government that leaks information like a sieve is somehow able to guarantee the silence of the thousands of government officials who had to be behind such a massive campaign.

Yes, you're all damned morons.
If we were in a court of law and I was presenting my evidence and you yours, you'd be laughed out of the courtroom.
Deal with the physics and stop trying to win arguments with empty rhetoric. It makes you look dumber than you already do.
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K Graham wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:28 pm
Deal with the physics and stop trying to win arguments with empty rhetoric. It makes you look dumber than you already do.

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The other thing these guys blithely don’t address is the stress of the steelwork being impacted by a jetliner, in addition to the heat from burning material, and the stress of millions of pounds weight bearing down on a damaged and burning superstructure.

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Re: Remembering Building 7

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K Graham wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:28 pm
BeNotDeceived wrote:
Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:27 pm

If we were in a court of law and I was presenting my evidence and you yours, you'd be laughed out of the courtroom.
Deal with the physics and stop trying to win arguments with empty rhetoric. It makes you look dumber than you already do.

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OK, let's start with the law of conservation of momentum... do you know what that is? Didn't think so. Please explain to all of us how 10 stories of a 110 story building can go completely through 100 floors as if there were no resistance below, while doing so at literally free fall speed, and while the pile driver was being incinerated itself upon initiation of the destruction??? This should be good. 😅 And while you're at it, please explain why the towers' destruction looked exactly like a pyroclastic flow from a volcano and how 10 stories of floor that was being incinerated can produce similar heat and energy??? Go! 🤦‍♂️
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