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Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:43 pm
If Biden was really protecting Burisma he did about the worst job possible.
Wasn't it your favorite Barack Husein Obama who said, "Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up."
Given your ability to recall all these little details about him I'm starting to suspect you've got more of a crush on him than me.
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What was the market value of "connections" at the time? Several years earlier, it seems to have been $10 million per year. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way ... ly-ap-says Maybe Hunter should have bargained a little harder. ;)
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K Graham wrote:
Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:26 am
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Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:23 am


LOL I have…you tell me what he brought to the table…please educate me. Again he was on the payroll of a Russian backed oligarch, who hired him because he was the son of a sitting senator. What else beyond that did this senators son bring to the corrupt company that was stealing Ukrainian goverment contracts?
LOL... you tell me what these other Burisma members "brought to the table."

Joseph Cofer Black is an American former CIA officer who served as director of the Counterterrorism Center under George Bush.
Aleksander Kwaśniewski, former president of Poland.
Karina Zlochevska is the young daughter of a Ukrainian Oligarch, Mykola Zlochevsky.
Christina Sofocleous was a 21 year old lawyer from Moscow.
Riginos Charalampous is an accountant from England.
Marina Pericleous was a young attorney from Cyprus who had just passed the bar.
Devon Archer, a former senior adviser to the John Kerry's 2004 presidential campaign.
Alan Apter was an investment banker and a corporate lawyer at Sullivan & Cromwell.

We're still waiting with bated breath for you to tell us what the scandal is here? Try going back and reading this thread in its entirety, it could save you from looking foolish again.

Kevin…first of I work so I don’t have time to sit around and respond like you can. And who is the “we’re” you are talking about, your tribe? (That was for Marcus).

Let’s start slow…Mykola Zlochevsky (MZ) is indeed was and maybe still a Russian backed Ukrainian Oligarch, and the boss of Hunter Biden, was a minister of ecology and natural resources for the Ukrainian Government, under the pro-Russian government of Viktor Yanukovych. He founded Burisma and gave his company licenses for natural gas rights…making Burisma one of the largest producers of natural gas in the Ukraine. Karina, as you mention above, and his other daughter head Burisma from what I read, while MK is hiding out in other countries because he is wanted for corruption in the Ukraine.

This is just a general profile of Hunter Biden boss, but I think it shows who Hunter as a lawyer worked for. There is a lot more to go over and I need to dig into this in that it has been a few years since I last discussed this here, but this a good start.

So it is clear, without doubt, Hunter Biden worked for and was paid very good by a Russian backed criminal and Oligarch, while his father was a Senator and future VP that would be responsible in managing the Ukraine, allowing monies, for the Obama administration to flow into the Ukraine.

Is this a fair assessment Kevin, if not why not?
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Devon Archer…

In part…

He was Hunter Biden’s college roommate, they were partners in a few companies. They both worked for Burisma being employed by a Russian backed Oligarch, or to put it simply a gangster or goverment mafia member. Mykola Zlochevsky, their boss and employer is now hiding out in maybe Monaco, where offshore accounts thrive.

In 2014 Archer met with Joe Biden at the White House. A day after Burisma deposited over 100k into a bank in C/O Archer. A few days later Archer was a member of the Burisma board and a while later Biden was on the Burisma Board also.

Today, Archer is in prison serving a year for attempting to defraud an American Indian Tribe out of many of millions.

Is this a fair assessment?
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When do you get to all of the juicy graft and corruption stuff that Joe did?
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canpakes wrote:
Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:41 pm
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When do you get to all of the juicy graft and corruption stuff that Joe did?
Right now I am just following Kevins request, by asking if these are fair assessments? Have I stated any untruths yet? Let’s see who these folks are and see what character they possess and what they might bring to the table. In the end maybe Bidens only fault is having bad judgement in hanging with some of these folks, or maybe he is the big guy…I don’t know and either do you…so lets just see who these folks are?
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Markk wrote:
Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:45 pm
canpakes wrote:
Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:41 pm
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When do you get to all of the juicy graft and corruption stuff that Joe did?
Right now I am just following Kevins request, by asking if these are fair assessments? Have I stated any untruths yet? Let’s see who these folks are and see what character they possess and what they might bring to the table. In the end maybe Bidens only fault is having bad judgement in hanging with some of these folks, or maybe he is the big guy…I don’t know and either do you…so lets just see who these folks are?

Certainly, I just don’t see folks in high positions of government or corporate power as any more saintly than most other people, so there will definitely be some of dubious character in the mix.

Regardless, a pretty high threshold for shenanigans has been set by others - higher, and long before the players that you’ve mentioned so far. As example, just by our last President:
The data — printouts from Mr. Trump’s official Internal Revenue Service tax transcripts, with the figures from his federal tax form, the 1040, for the years 1985 to 1994 — represents the fullest and most detailed look to date at the president’s taxes, information he has kept from public view. Though the information does not cover the tax years at the center of an escalating battle between the Trump administration and Congress, it traces the most tumultuous chapter in a long business career — an era of fevered acquisition and spectacular collapse.

The numbers show that in 1985, Mr. Trump reported losses of $46.1 million from his core businesses — largely casinos, hotels and retail space in apartment buildings. They continued to lose money every year, totaling $1.17 billion in losses for the decade.

In fact, year after year, Mr. Trump appears to have lost more money than nearly any other individual American taxpayer, The Times found when it compared his results with detailed information the I.R.S. compiles on an annual sampling of high-income earners. His core business losses in 1990 and 1991 — more than $250 million each year — were more than double those of the nearest taxpayers in the I.R.S. information for those years.

Over all, Mr. Trump lost so much money that he was able to avoid paying income taxes for eight of the 10 years.

Would you find Trump’s finances possibly problematic, or do you believe that they are believable?
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Markk wrote:
Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:32 pm
Devon Archer…

In part…

He was Hunter Biden’s college roommate, they were partners in a few companies. They both worked for Burisma being employed by a Russian backed Oligarch, or to put it simply a gangster or goverment mafia member. Mykola Zlochevsky, their boss and employer is now hiding out in maybe Monaco, where offshore accounts thrive.

In 2014 Archer met with Joe Biden at the White House. A day after Burisma deposited over 100k into a bank in C/O Archer. A few days later Archer was a member of the Burisma board and a while later Biden was on the Burisma Board also.

Today, Archer is in prison serving a year for attempting to defraud an American Indian Tribe out of many of millions.

Is this a fair assessment?
What is your source for the White House meeting and the 100K Deposit the next day?
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canpakes wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:19 am
Markk wrote:
Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:45 pm


Right now I am just following Kevins request, by asking if these are fair assessments? Have I stated any untruths yet? Let’s see who these folks are and see what character they possess and what they might bring to the table. In the end maybe Bidens only fault is having bad judgement in hanging with some of these folks, or maybe he is the big guy…I don’t know and either do you…so lets just see who these folks are?

Certainly, I just don’t see folks in high positions of government or corporate power as any more saintly than most other people, so there will definitely be some of dubious character in the mix.

Regardless, a pretty high threshold for shenanigans has been set by others - higher, and long before the players that you’ve mentioned so far. As example, just by our last President:
The data — printouts from Mr. Trump’s official Internal Revenue Service tax transcripts, with the figures from his federal tax form, the 1040, for the years 1985 to 1994 — represents the fullest and most detailed look to date at the president’s taxes, information he has kept from public view. Though the information does not cover the tax years at the center of an escalating battle between the Trump administration and Congress, it traces the most tumultuous chapter in a long business career — an era of fevered acquisition and spectacular collapse.

The numbers show that in 1985, Mr. Trump reported losses of $46.1 million from his core businesses — largely casinos, hotels and retail space in apartment buildings. They continued to lose money every year, totaling $1.17 billion in losses for the decade.

In fact, year after year, Mr. Trump appears to have lost more money than nearly any other individual American taxpayer, The Times found when it compared his results with detailed information the I.R.S. compiles on an annual sampling of high-income earners. His core business losses in 1990 and 1991 — more than $250 million each year — were more than double those of the nearest taxpayers in the I.R.S. information for those years.

Over all, Mr. Trump lost so much money that he was able to avoid paying income taxes for eight of the 10 years.

Would you find Trump’s finances possibly problematic, or do you believe that they are believable?
I know Mark Cuban said that Trump is not a Billionaire, especially liquid. I bet that is most likely the case. He stated earlier in his run for president he took advantage of aweak government tax codes, so he probably paid little taxes or hardly any in some of the years. The one tax results that were “leaked out” showed he paid taxes so that tells me he probably did not pay too much if any the years they were not “leaked out.”

He wrote in his book that he lost his shorts, so that is no secret, I’m not sure what you are trying to assert here. Not paying taxes and taking advantage of tax codes designed for the rich is not against the law. Personally I think he should have just been open, but he is too prideful and narcissistic for that.

I could care less about his taxes at this point, but if he chooses to run again I hope he is open. If there was a illegal issue with his taxes he would have been called out for them along time again, no doubt about that, so I believe it is a pride thing.

One difference between Trump and Biden is that Trump made his money in the private sector…he made good money in television and real estate and lost in other ventures like football and casinos…Biden is a millionaire as a politician, which is not uncommon in our corrupt system. Kick back city. I don’t trust any of them, maybe you do.

Hunter Biden worked for basically a mafia chief in the corrupt Ukrainian government, while his father was a senator, VP and future president with monetary influence of American monies for the Ukraine …if that does not bother you fine, but it raises plenty of red flags for many.

Trump was in office and took a beating for 4 long years, now it is Joe’s turn, and so far he is a mess, Harris is more than a joke and I know you know that Cakes, and they have three long years to go…but hey he said he is going to run again, lets see how that works out…if the media turn on him he won’t be able to finish his term.
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Sat Mar 26, 2022 12:46 am
Markk wrote:
Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:32 pm
Devon Archer…

In part…

He was Hunter Biden’s college roommate, they were partners in a few companies. They both worked for Burisma being employed by a Russian backed Oligarch, or to put it simply a gangster or goverment mafia member. Mykola Zlochevsky, their boss and employer is now hiding out in maybe Monaco, where offshore accounts thrive.

In 2014 Archer met with Joe Biden at the White House. A day after Burisma deposited over 100k into a bank in C/O Archer. A few days later Archer was a member of the Burisma board and a while later Biden was on the Burisma Board also.

Today, Archer is in prison serving a year for attempting to defraud an American Indian Tribe out of many of millions.

Is this a fair assessment?
What is your source for the White House meeting and the 100K Deposit the next day?

It was the previous day, I first read it in “Profiles of Corruption” by Peter Schweizer…I then google and cross referenced it with several links. Do your home work. there is a lot written on this.

I am reading through this now… https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/in my opinion/media/ ... _FINAL.pdf

If you have something that counters, please cf and i will read through it? His visit to Biden is public record in that every person that visits a president or VP has to sign in. Google Archer v. ganis and explore the different hits…again do a little research.
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