So, the people who “cannot reproduce” are not true women and men who can be called “adult male and female human beings,” according to your description?Markk wrote: ↑Sun May 08, 2022 11:21 pmWell what you are denying, avoiding, or just ignorant of, is that there is a real tangible biological difference between a man and woman. And God or nature, or both…whatever you choose to believe, I will use “nature” moving forward, designed them that way, and if it was not for these differences, mankind would not exist. We have to assign words to everything in life or we would just grunt, moan and point….and not grow much as a society and in all honesty might not even exist today, who knows? Context is critical to all words, and ignoring the context is critical to your narrative. And words do change and evolve…which is what you are trying to do in order to fit this into your political narrative…lets be honest here.
In “context” to these two tangible biological beings, mankind has assigned man and women to be the name for adult male and female Human beings which singularly are biologically different, yet combined, allow the existence of mankind to exist. People that have diseases like PAIS or CAIS, or mutations, or people that change sex and gender by surgery or by hormone therapy, cannot reproduce. So there is a difference here…it might not be fair, and it might not be an easy road for these folks , but it is a reality…and pretending there is not a difference is just ignoring reality….
So the entities with low sperm count can’t be defined as men. Being overweight can cause male infertility so the hefty entities who can’t reproduce can’t be referred to properly as “men.” Diabetes can cause male infertility, so diabetic entities who can’t reproduce can’t be referred to as “adult males” or “men.” And just to be fair about this, post-menopausal entities, by your description, no longer are “women,” because they don’t qualify as “adult females,” by your definition. The list goes on and on. And ON.
“As designed by nature” falls apart when you consider that low sperm count, diabetes and menopause, etc. etc. ETC., were also “designed by nature.”
Exactly my point.honorentheos wrote: ↑Mon May 09, 2022 12:26 amThe extremes aren't the main issues, though. Rather, it's the numerous instances of gender identity coming into conflict with societal norms that are the real, and more important point for consideration. The extremes just make the non-binary nature of the issues obvious.
... you seem to imagine it's all a ploy by peole whose games of dress up weren't extreme enough. That's just ignorance on display.