Yes, I seem to recall asking similar questions before and you attempting an escape by saying you’ve responded to people in the past already. I certainly can search to see if you’ve ever said anything relevant but sadly you reveal yourself here way too much showing me it’s likely not worth the bother (not to mention your penchant for evading and distracting at nearly every turn, after all I still don’t know what your posting has to do with the op).MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 12:44 am
dastardly, if you go back and read my posts from time immemorial……you will see I’ve expressed my opinions on these questions and others. I’m not going to rehash here.
Do a search on the board and look up “anthropic” or “fine tuning” for starters.
I realize that there are arguments for and against but as I observe the world and its historical timeline and evolution I personally see purpose and creative genius behind the scenes rather than randomness and chaos.
The fact that you’re asking believers for proofs is proof, in and of itself, that you are looking for God on a silver platter. Someone to spoon feed you. That’s not the way it works. Other people cannot EVER prove God’s existence to you. It’s a personal endeavor/journey. One that we each travel alone walking in tandem with those that we have reason to trust.
Best wishes in YOUR continued journey to locate/find truth through the means that you have at your disposal and trust. Reason and earthly logic, in my opinion, will only take you so far.
Faith, again, is a hard but worthwhile road to take. It’s not for the faint of heart as I’ve said.
Regards,
MG
Anyway:
…mg attempts to reason why reason isn’t good.Reason and earthly logic, in my opinion, will only take you so far.
Sure, if you oppose reason and logic in a discussion, the discussion ends before it started. What other tools must we agree on if not reason and logic? If you’d answer that question you’d have to demonstrate your own inconsistency since attempting to reason with another is itself assuming reason and logic. And no offense, particularly since you embrace such irrationality, but it’s obvious why you refuse to respond, or discus, you seem to enjoy playing a game of pretending reason and logic only to drop the conventions when convenient. And you explicitly say that’s what you do right here.
I’m familiar with traditional arguments for god, and in terms of being logical or reasonable I find them lacking. To me it’s clear you’re saying you don’t have reason for your beliefs. It just happens to be convenient that others have posed bad arguments before and those tend to cover for your fear of reason. Not to be harsh but that’s understandable in a sense. If you really want to believe something any old argument will do.