Mar-A-Lago Legally Searched by FBI

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Res Ipsa wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 2:47 pm
Interesting day. The judge unsealed the more detailed inventory that she ordered the FBI to prepare. Box 2 is interesting. It includes both classified docs and empty folders used to contain classified docs. I wonder if all the documents from the cover photos are accounted for. I’ll bet someone is working on that.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... 39.1_1.pdf

ETA: This looks like a pretty comprehensive summary of yesterday’s hearing. https://www.lawfareblog.com/mar-lago-sh ... eral-court
The thing that stands out to me is how many boxes had classified documents intermixed with stuff like clothing, gifts, and books.
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It makes me wonder about all the oligarchs and executives that have been falling put of windows since February.

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And the "Return to Military Aid" folders are going to get someone fired and or jailed.
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Maybe Trump packed up empty classified document folders and moved them to Florida. Future craft project materials.
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:37 pm
Maybe Trump packed up empty classified document folders and moved them to Florida. Future craft project materials.
He just wanted to put these stickers all over the secret stuff -

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I think Snowden is a terrible threat, I think he’s a terrible traitor, and you know what we used to do in the good old days when we were a strong country — you know what we used to do to traitors, right?” - Trump
I want to know what was in those empty folders, and where did it go?

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¥akaSteelhead wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:23 pm
I stopped counting the number of actual TSCI docs at 18, not the covers - the actual TSCI docs.

Why all the empty doc covers though? That is a question.....
Yes, although I think "where are the documents they contained" is equally important. ;)

There are many possible explanations, including that Trump never really thought he'd have to leave the White House, and so at the end stuff was just being willy nilly swept off desks and out of drawers and thrown into boxes. Worst case would include that the documents were in the folders when the box was packed, but are now missing. Or that they were removed for copying.

If I understand things correctly, there are records kept of which documents are classified. So, the archivist or anyone else should be able to determine whether all classified documents are accounted for.
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¥akaSteelhead wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:31 pm
And the "Return to Military Aid" folders are going to get someone fired and or jailed.
If I understand that designation correctly, I suspect both.
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Fri Sep 02, 2022 5:25 pm


Yes, although I think "where are the documents they contained" is equally important. ;)

Yep, accounting for what 100? or so pieces of classified information no longer in the designation sheets. What happened to them?
Destroyed in a manner outside of that proscribed for classified material?
Misplaced?
Sold?
Faxed?
Grabbed up by someone at MAL?

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Even the swept up and accidentally taken doesn’t survive being asked for and getting a subpoena for them. His lawyer signed an affidavit and went on the news saying she searched everywhere and got everything. So either she lied, or Trump purposefully held them back. Both are very bad news for the two of them.
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