Judge Grants Trump’s Special Master Motion

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ajax18 wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:43 pm
Garland better fight this hard. If the special master finds out that the FBI is using Trump's attoeney client privileged documents to get a leg up on Trump's lawsuit against the FBI the entire coverup for crossfire hurricane could get out to the public.

The idea that former presidents can't have classified documents is wrong. Wait till we find out what documents Obama has in Chicago. The criminilization of political thought and opinion is here.
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ajax18 wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:43 pm
Garland better fight this hard. If the special master finds out that the FBI is using Trump's attoeney client privileged documents to get a leg up on Trump's lawsuit against the FBI the entire coverup for crossfire hurricane could get out to the public.

Trump's "privileged docs" argument has been roundly debunked by everyone including his Attorney General. There is no privilege for documents that don't belong to you.

Trump stole documents that didn't belong to him. Period. This special master nonsense is just that, a typical delaying tactic which is what Trump does to avoid accountability. It is all part of his privilege as a rich white man in America. All he has to do is keep an army of attorneys filing motions to delay everything until Trump eventually dies. Meanwhile everyone around him goes to jail as the fall guys. Bannon is next.
The idea that former presidents can't have classified documents is wrong. Wait till we find out what documents Obama has in Chicago. The criminilization of political thought and opinion is here.
Another debunked lie. God you people really are tied down by perpetual ignorance huh? Last night i saw that idiot Jim Jordan claim, yet again, there are 87,000 IRS coming for people. And now you're repeating this idiotic lie about Obama's documents in Chicago.
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Vēritās wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:55 pm

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ajax18 wrote:The idea that former presidents can't have classified documents is wrong. Wait till we find out what documents Obama has in Chicago. The criminilization of political thought and opinion is here.
Another debunked lie. God you people really are tied down by perpetual ignorance huh? Last night i saw that idiot Jim Jordan claim, yet again, there are 87,000 IRS coming for people. And now you're repeating this idiotic lie about Obama's documents in Chicago.
Here are two relevant statements from the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) :
August 12, 2022, statement

The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) assumed exclusive legal and physical custody of Obama Presidential records when President Barack Obama left office in 2017, in accordance with the Presidential Records Act (PRA). NARA moved approximately 30 million pages of unclassified records to a NARA facility in the Chicago area where they are maintained exclusively by NARA. Additionally, NARA maintains the classified Obama Presidential records in a NARA facility in the Washington, DC, area. As required by the PRA, former President Obama has no control over where and how NARA stores the Presidential records of his Administration.

September 8, 2022, statement

Some news outlets and individuals on social media are mistakenly reporting that the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) confirmed that a large number of boxes of Presidential records are missing from the Barack Obama administration. This is false. NARA has never issued any such statement and is not aware of any missing boxes of Presidential records from the Obama administration.
SO:

- Obama does not have any White House documents under his control in Chicago or anywhere else.

- No documents from the Obama administration are missing.

But will that stop ajax18 repeating nonsense that he by now certainly knows to be a bunch of lies. Naaaaah.
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As a reminder for the people who haven’t been lost to this qtard MAGA cult:

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comme ... t/indy0mr/
It might be information about American allies nuclear capabilities. Or it might be information about an adversarial country's nuclear capabilities.

Both options are terrible for American national security. Trump kept top state secrets at his resort. A resort that has had multiple security lapses.

A Chinese bussinesswoman spy was arrested and sentenced for infiltrating Mar-a-Lago.[1]

Moreover, the U.S. government is investigating a fake heiress that infiltrated Mar-a-Lago too.[2]

Mar-a-Lago was easily accessible and posed a massive security risk.[3]

#3 to the point:

But it was at Mar-a-Lago, where well-heeled members and guests attended weddings and fundraising dinners and frolicked on a breezy ocean patio, that U.S. intelligence seemed especially at risk.

The Secret Service said when Trump was president that it does not determine who is granted access to the club, but does do physical screenings to make sure no one brings in prohibited items, and further screening for guests in proximity to the president and other protectees.

..."It's a nightmarish environment for a careful handling of highly classified information," said a former U.S. intelligence officer. "It's just a nightmare."

...In a high profile example, Trump huddled in 2017 with Japan's then-Prime Minister Shinzo Abe at an outdoor dinner table while guests hovered nearby, listening and taking photos that they later posted on Twitter.

The dinner was disrupted by a North Korean missile test, and guests listened as Trump and Abe figured out what to say in response. After issuing a statement, Trump dropped by a wedding party at the club.

"What we saw was Trump be so lax in security that he was having a sensitive meeting regarding a potential war topic where non-U.S. government personnel could observe and photograph," said Mark Zaid, a lawyer who specializes in national security cases. "It would have been easy for someone to also have had a device that heard and recorded what Trump was saying as well."
Sources can be accessed through the link.

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Ajax wrote:Garland better fight this hard. If the special master finds out that the FBI is using Trump's attoeney client privileged documents to get a leg up on Trump's lawsuit against the FBI the entire coverup for crossfire hurricane could get out to the public.
You know what your just end would be, Ajax? As a guy who literally makes his living based on science and precision engineering, one day, you need to be on the receiving end your party's mode of operation. Somebody needs to sue your practice and wipe you out based on a conspiracy theory, like, contact lenses are being implanted with little screens that send subliminal messages to the subjects brain promoting socialism and LGBQ. In that new era of Christian Reconstructionism that you helped put into power, a right-wing "expert witness" will study your lenses and find exactly what the prosecution expected to find. When you cry out that you're one of them, how can this happen? It will be discovered based on other eye-witness accounts from neighbors that you are secretly a liberal. You'll cry Noooo! and go down never knowing what happened. It could be anything, like your business was doing pretty good and a threat to a fellow right-wing optometrist who just happened to have better connections in the new order based on Trump style justice.
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ajax18 wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:43 pm
Garland better fight this hard. If the special master finds out that the FBI is using Trump's attoeney client privileged documents to get a leg up on Trump's lawsuit against the FBI the entire coverup for crossfire hurricane could get out to the public.

The idea that former presidents can't have classified documents is wrong. Wait till we find out what documents Obama has in Chicago. The criminilization of political thought and opinion is here.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Trump's lawsuit???

Trump just got the mother of all ass kicking today in his lawsuit. He will be required to pay the attorney fees of all defendants. The suit was a complete joke.

I’ll post a link and choice quotes later. The vengeance you so desperately crave will never happen because your litany of grievances is delusional.
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Gadianton wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:49 pm
Ajax wrote:Garland better fight this hard. If the special master finds out that the FBI is using Trump's attoeney client privileged documents to get a leg up on Trump's lawsuit against the FBI the entire coverup for crossfire hurricane could get out to the public.
You know what your just end would be, Ajax? As a guy who literally makes his living based on science and precision engineering, one day, you need to be on the receiving end your party's mode of operation. Somebody needs to sue your practice and wipe you out based on a conspiracy theory, like, contact lenses are being implanted with little screens that send subliminal messages to the subjects brain promoting socialism and LGBQ. In that new era of Christian Reconstructionism that you helped put into power, a right-wing "expert witness" will study your lenses and find exactly what the prosecution expected to find. When you cry out that you're one of them, how can this happen? It will be discovered based on other eye-witness accounts from neighbors that you are secretly a liberal. You'll cry Noooo! and go down never knowing what happened. It could be anything, like your business was doing pretty good and a threat to a fellow right-wing optometrist who just happened to have better connections in the new order based on Trump style justice.
That would be hilarious. Just desserts.
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ajax18 wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:43 pm
Trump's lawsuit against the FBI the entire coverup for crossfire hurricane could get out to the public.
You mean the Crossfire Hurricane that Trump's DOJ investigated, and issued a report on, where they "did not find any documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the FBI's decision to conduct these operations."

That one?
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:22 pm
ajax18 wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:43 pm
Trump's lawsuit against the FBI the entire coverup for crossfire hurricane could get out to the public.
You mean the Crossfire Hurricane that Trump's own administration investigated, and issued a report on, where they "did not find any documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the FBI's decision to conduct these operations."

That one?
One of the howlers in Trump’s lawsuit was the cherry picked portions of the IG report that were quoted in the complaint without even referring to the reports actual conclusions. The judge was all over that, and many other misrepresentation made in the Complaint.
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Trump's "privileged docs" argument has been roundly debunked by everyone including his Attorney General.
Why is it that Republican career bureaucrets opinions only carry weight when they agree with you? Have you heard what William Barr said about the BLM protesters? It's like all the sudden the teenage bully and 47% plutocrat Mitt Romney who wanted to put black people back in chaine and war criminal Dick Cheney are now to be revered.
Both options are terrible for American national security. Trump kept top state secrets at his resort. A resort that has had multiple security lapses.
Trump is a former president and Mar a Lago is guarded by the secret service.
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