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To: Area Seventies, Mission Presidents, Stake and District Presidents, Bishops and Branch Presidents in the United Kingdom and the Crown Dependencies of The Channel Isles and the Isle of Man

Updated Safeguarding Policies and Procedures

Dear Brethren,

As disciples of the Lord and leaders in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, we have a sacred responsibility to care for and protect our children, youth, and any other vulnerable members so that everyone may feel safe and protected. President Russell M. Nelson said in the October 2022 General Conference, "Let me be perfectly clear: any kind of abuse of women, children or anyone is an abomination to the Lord".

The Church's existing policies and procedures and the doctrines that underpin existing safeguarding measures are contained in the General Handbook: Serving in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, and in other Church materials. After careful consideration the Area Presidency approved an update to safeguarding policies and procedures for use in the United Kingdom and the Crown Dependencies of The Channel Isles and the Isle of Man ("Safeguarding Policies and Procedures of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in the United Kingdom") that can be download.

The following are the main matters that are addressed in the updated policies and procedures:

• Consolidation of Church safeguarding policies and procedures that can be reviewed at https://uk.churchofjesuschrist.org > Church Resources >
Safeguarding. The website is also being updated with additional UK specific resources.
• Calling in each Stake of a Safeguarding Specialist who, under the direction of the Stake President, will assist with training in the Stake and Wards, monitoring DBS checking and online training.
• Tasking Family Services personnel with obtaining Level 3 Safeguarding Training and then providing training to Stake Safeguarding Specialists.
• Introduction of mandatory DBS (Disclosure and Barring Service) checking for those who will serve with children, youth or vulnerable adults, ensuring that individuals with a history of violent or abusive behaviour are not allowed to work with vulnerable people.
• Importance of ongoing training and education on safeguarding and abuse prevention, and recognizing the signs of abuse and responding appropriately.
• Inclusion in the membership audit of additional questions specifically designed to determine whether key safeguarding policies and procedures are being followed.
• Stressing current reporting obligations and the role of the help line, always maintaining open communication and transparency in all matters related to safeguarding.

The updated policy will be effective on 1st July 2023, with the following implementation steps:

• Family Services personnel have already undertaken Level 3 safeguarding
Calling and training of Stake Safeguarding Specialists by the end of August 2023.
• Completion of first year training of all Stake and Ward councils by the end of October 2023.
• DBS checking of all serving with children and youth will commence on 1st July 2023 to be completed by the end of 2023. Stakes will be contacted individually about their start date for DBS checking. Eligibility list of callings is enclosed with this letter and step-by-step details for the use of members and leaders will be provided in due course.
•All that have been serving with children or youth for more than a month, and have not yet completed the Protecting Children and Youth online training, should complete it by the end of September 2023. Training ongoing thereafter.
• To reinforce safeguarding principles with ward members, the bishop or someone under his direction should prepare and teach a fifth-Sunday lesson in July or October 2023 using this presentation.
We invite all members and leaders to join with us in creating a safe and nurturing environment for all members of the Church and those others who worship with us.
Together, we can uphold our sacred responsibility to protect and care for one another.

Sincerely,
THE EUROPE NORTH AREA PRESIDENCY
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It’s nice to know that such measures are only necessary in the United Kingdom and nowhere else.
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drumdude wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:02 am
What do you know, DCP’s trip across the pond actually did some good!
This is a direct result of the combined effort of Nemo the Mormon and the Britvengers. They suggested this course of action and pursued it.
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A few things to note about this:

Firstly, these changes in procedure have not been instigated at the behest of the Church, the FP or the Q12.
"After careful consideration the Area Presidency approved an update to safeguarding policies and procedures for use in the United Kingdom..." It reads as if somebody within the UK put this forward as a suggestion.

Secondly, safeguarding training, auditing safeguarding, and background checks, have been in place in the UK in organisations where children might be at risk (schools, hospitals etc) for a long time. This notification should include an apology that it has taken so long for the Church to put in place in the UK what so many people have been advocating for decades. "Careful consideration" isn't an excuse for it taking so long.

Thirdly, "Stressing current reporting obligations and the role of the help line, always maintaining open communication and transparency in all matters related to safeguarding." is a highly ironic statement, given the role of the help line has been to avoid transparency in matters related to safeguarding. I'd speculate the Area Presidency mean "one-way transparency", but we shall see.

It's certainly a significant step forward.
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Moksha wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:31 am
drumdude wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2023 1:02 am
What do you know, DCP’s trip across the pond actually did some good!
This is a direct result of the combined effort of Nemo the Mormon and the Britvengers. They suggested this course of action and pursued it.
They’re a bunch of filthy apostates, I choose to believe it was DCP :lol:
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I Have Questions wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:41 am
A few things to note about this:

Firstly, these changes in procedure have not been instigated at the behest of the Church, the FP or the Q12.
"After careful consideration the Area Presidency approved an update to safeguarding policies and procedures for use in the United Kingdom..." It reads as if somebody within the UK put this forward as a suggestion.

Secondly, safeguarding training, auditing safeguarding, and background checks, have been in place in the UK in organisations where children might be at risk (schools, hospitals etc) for a long time. This notification should include an apology that it has taken so long for the Church to put in place in the UK what so many people have been advocating for decades. "Careful consideration" isn't an excuse for it taking so long.

Thirdly, "Stressing current reporting obligations and the role of the help line, always maintaining open communication and transparency in all matters related to safeguarding." is a highly ironic statement, given the role of the help line has been to avoid transparency in matters related to safeguarding. I'd speculate the Area Presidency mean "one-way transparency", but we shall see.

It's certainly a significant step forward.
So the FP/Q12 is permitting Area Presidencies to make this decision for their areas, respectively. Are the other Area Presidencies going to follow their UK counterpart? Does the FP/Q12 not see the need for this LDS Church-wide? Do not Mormon children everywhere deserve these modest measures to be taken to protect such children, even outside the UK?
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Nimrod wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:04 pm
Do not Mormon children everywhere deserve these modest measures to be taken to protect such children, even outside the UK?
The answer to that question by most right-minded individuals would be yes. Sadly, within the Church the first response to that would be to find worse examples and point them out, as a means of excusing the Church from implementing even these few basic measures.
It is a cherished article of faith among certain critics of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints that the chapels and youth programs of the Church are exceptionally dangerous places for young people, and that the leaders of the Church are callously and self-servingly indifferent to such matters.
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I'm not aware of any critic taking the position that Peterson wants them to be taking.
A little bit of comparison and comparative data, and a little bit of caution, might be helpful. Certainly, William John Meegan’s 2010 article “A Forgotten Study: Abuse in School 100 Times Worse than by Priests” suggests that that might be true in the case of Catholic clergy, and I expect the same to be true for Latter-day Saints:

In the last several weeks such a quantity of ink has been spilled in newspapers across the globe about the priestly sex abuse scandals, that a casual reader might be forgiven for thinking that Catholic priests are the worst and most common perpetrators of child sex abuse. But according to Charol Shakeshaft, the researcher of a little-remembered 2004 study prepared for the U.S. Department of Education, “the physical sexual abuse of students in schools is likely more than 100 times the abuse by priests.”
Relying on wishful thinking on the basis that there's an example of an institution that has a worse public (hold that thought) record on child abuse by leaders than the Church's is recklessly negligent.

Peterson goes on to post more cheap, ill-considered link & run content.
An article by Jennifer Roach suggests that those critics might be . . . well, mistaken: “Latter-day Saint Enigma: Their Unexpected Troop Abuse Rates: Are Latter-day Saints more likely to abuse kids? Through statistical analysis of the BSA abuse case, we have our first data-supported answer to the question.”
Unlike Peterson, I read and thought about Roach's (FTR she's a Church member) article.

On April 19, 2023, The Boy Scouts of America (BSA) announced they had cleared the final hurdle before emerging from Chapter 11 Bankruptcy. The U.S. 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals approved their plan for compensating victims of sexual abuse. That plan included an agreement with their insurers, all the local councils, and some of their sponsoring organizations to create a $2.4 billion settlement trust to compensate victims. This is the largest sexual abuse compensation fund ever.

The reality of even one case of abuse is tragic, let alone many times. Any abuse is too much, and every part of this is sad—including when it took place within Latter-day Saint units.

All parties who contribute to this fund will be relieved of liability. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, in response to Latter-day Saint abuse, will contribute $250 million, or 10.41% of the fund.

Critics claim this is unfair because the BSA was made up of 20-30% of Latter-day Saint affiliated troops, depending on the decade. Leading to questions about the prevalence of Latter-day Saint abuse. “Shouldn’t the church contribute 20-30% of the fund?” or “They’re getting off for pennies on the dollar!”
Well, not so fast. There are 82,000 claims against the BSA; some of those are court cases, and others are people who can make a claim against the settlement fund without going to court. Every single one represents a heartbreaking story where the trust of a child was broken.

There is no publicly available way to access all of those claims right now; perhaps someday, when the settlement process is over, there will be. However, the Boy Scouts have kept records of abuse happening in their ranks for almost 80 years in a system officially called “The Ineligible Volunteer Files,” but colloquially referred to as the P-Files. P for perversion. A database of these files was created by the L.A. Times and can be viewed online. The oldest file goes back to 1947, and there are 5400 of them.

What do these records tell us about Latter-day Saint abuse in affiliated troops? If they represent 20-30% of BSA troops, are they responsible for that same proportion of abuse cases as critics claim?

I decided to investigate. I called up Stephen Cranney, a Ph.D. statistical analyst, to consult on a plan of how to best answer this question. We decided to analyze 10% of the files based on random sampling (540 files). Then I went to work reading and coding these files, a process that took over 40 hours.
https://publicsquaremag.org/sexuality-f ... use-rates/
About half of the files list the man’s religion, and almost all of them list the sponsoring agency. If a specific religion was listed, they were sorted based on those identifying cases of Latter-day Saint abuse. If religion was not listed, but the troop’s sponsoring agency was listed, they were placed into the same categories. Files that listed neither religion nor sponsoring agency (25 total in my sample) were thrown out since it was impossible to confirm if they were affiliated with any church. We then replaced those with 25 randomly drawn files that did contain the needed information.

The results were fascinating. Really fascinating.

While Latter-day Saint church-affiliated troops made up 20-30% of all BSA troops, the proportion of Latter-day Saint abuse cases was far lower—5.16%, to be exact.
I'm not a statistician, but there seems to be some flaws in the methodology. Firstly, this sample has been drawn from those cases of abuse that have gone to court or applied to the settlement fund for payment and are therefore part of the public record (did you hold that thought?). It does not include those cases that have been processed and settled by Kirton McConkie. It does not include those cases that have been suppressed by Bishops and Stake Presidents through either victim-blaming or perpetrator-protecting counselling.

Roach concludes...
Why do we see such lower rates of Latter-day Saint abuse? There are many potential reasons for this, which I’ve reviewed here in a separate piece. But I have one main theory: It’s the system of callings in the Church of Jesus Christ. In other organizations, if you want access to children, you can volunteer and be given it very quickly. In our system, you have to wait until you’re called. And this has a throttling effect creating lower rates of abuse.
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Apologetics for rates of child abuse within the Church are particularly problematic. The aviation industry is now the safest form of travel because they didn't excuse, or mitigate, or hide, or suppress, or find examples of airlines or travel industries that were worse, rather than doing everything possible to learn from the incidents and implement change. The LDS Church would rather settle quietly in the shadows with individuals, rather than improve the safety for all children under their volunteer's positions of trust.

I applaud the Europe Area Presidency for sanctioning these changes within the UK. It's shameful that they haven't applied them across their sphere of influence - Europe. It's shameful that the Church worldwide still doesn't even do basic background checks for people serving in positions of trust with minors. It's shameful that people like Peterson and Roach look to excuse the Church from it's responsibility for improving child protection by deliberately seeking out only worse examples - the Church's children are better served by those people seeking to find examples of institutions doing it better and petitioning their Area Presidency to authorise changes. LDS children in the UK are going to be better protected in the UK not because Jesus has revealed to His Prophets what needs to happen. Not because the leadership structure sees it as important and worthwhile to do everything possible. No, it's because somebody in the UK was fed up of the Church's inaction and pushed and pushed and pushed for change.

That these changes are being introduced in the UK is great, that theses are only being introduced in the UK is shameful.
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The “forgotten” 2004 study is not anywhere close to an apples to apples comparison between sexual abuse in schools and sexual abuse in religious organizations. As the preface to the study states, the study was commissioned by the department of education to study sexual abuse in schools. The author instead adopted a definition used in a Canadian province of “sexual misconduct,” which is much broader than sexual abuse. Most critically, it includes much more than sexual contact between teacher and student. The cases against the Catholic Church and the BSA involve allegations of physical sexual abuse.

Peterson quotes from a Catholic apologetics article that quotes Catholic extremist Bill Donahoe. The author does not attempt to find a study of sexual misconduct among clergy using a comparable definition of “sexual misconduct.”

The comparison is flat-out dishonest.

Here is the original study. Read the preface. https://www2.ed.gov/rschstat/research/p ... report.pdf
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You know, I thought I had seen it all when it comes to grotesque Mopologist behavior, and yet here we have Dr. Peterson acting as an apologist on behalf of pedophiles and sex abusers. Wow. This may very well be the lowest he has ever sunk.
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The other article Peterson refers to was allegedly written in consultation with a statistician, but I doubt any qualified statistician would agree with her claims. The author is a mental health counselor who joined the LDS church three years ago. Her description of the database is woefully incomplete and misleading.
There is no publicly available way to access all of those claims right now; perhaps someday, when the settlement process is over, there will be. However, the Boy Scouts have kept records of abuse happening in their ranks for almost 80 years in a system officially called “The Ineligible Volunteer Files,” but colloquially referred to as the P-Files. P for perversion. A database of these files was created by the L.A. Times and can be viewed online. The oldest file goes back to 1947, and there are 5400 of them.

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Each file contains the name of the adult leader, some basic information about him (there are a handful of women in the database, but it’s 99% men), a summary of the abuse that is alleged, any relevant correspondence or legal documents, newspaper clippings, victim statements, photographs, and more. So, with some digging, it is possible to determine the percentage of abusers who came from a specific region, or a certain decade, or from troops sponsored by particular groups, including Latter-day Saint abuse.

About half of the files list the man’s religion, and almost all of them list the sponsoring agency. If a specific religion was listed, they were sorted based on those identifying cases of Latter-day Saint abuse. If religion was not listed, but the troop’s sponsoring agency was listed, they were placed into the same categories. Files that listed neither religion nor sponsoring agency (25 total in my sample) were thrown out since it was impossible to confirm if they were affiliated with any church. We then replaced those with 25 randomly drawn files that did contain the needed information.
Here is a link to the database: https://spreadsheets.latimes.com/boyscouts-cases/

And here is what the page itself says about the database:
This data­base con­tains in­form­a­tion on about 5,000 men and a hand­ful of wo­men who were ex­pelled from the Boy Scouts of Amer­ica between 1947 and Janu­ary 2005 on sus­pi­cion of sexu­al ab­use. The dots on the map in­dic­ate the loc­a­tion of troops con­nec­ted in some way to the ac­cused. The timeline be­low shows the volume of cases opened by year; however, an un­known num­ber of files were purged by the Scouts pri­or to the early 1990s. The data are de­rived from con­fid­en­tial Scout­ing files sub­mit­ted as evid­ence in court cases.
But, if you click the link labeled More About this Database, you learn this:
There are three main sources for the data­base: about 1,900 files from 1970 to 1991 pro­duced as evid­ence in a 1992 California­for­nia law­suit; about 1,200 case files from an over­lap­ping time peri­od — 1965 to 1985 — re­leased on or­der of the Ore­gon Su­preme Court; and sum­mary data on about 3,100 ad­di­tion­al files from 1947 to Janu­ary 2005. Both the case sum­mar­ies and the 1970-to-1991 files were provided to the Los Angeles Times by plaintiffs’ at­tor­ney Timothy Kos­noff. Taken to­geth­er, the data­base ac­counts for all of the Boy Scouts’ sur­viv­ing files as of Janu­ary 2005. An un­known num­ber of files were des­troyed by the Boy Scouts between the 1970s and the 1990s, and an un­known num­ber of ad­di­tion­al cases have been cre­ated since 2005.
Un­der “Doc­u­ment,” The Times has pos­ted links to re­dac­ted case files where they are avail­able. In cases marked “Pending,” the doc­u­ment is still be­ing re­dac­ted and will be pos­ted soon. In cases marked “Not avail­able,” the doc­u­ment has not been re­leased pub­licly by the Boy Scouts of Amer­ica.
In many of the in­cid­ents de­scribed, no crim­in­al charges were filed, mean­ing the al­leg­a­tions were nev­er heard in court. Case files re­leased by the court have vic­tims’ names and identi­fy­ing in­form­a­tion re­dac­ted, a stand­ard also used by The Times.
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First thing to notice -- this database does not include any reports of sexual abuse made to the BSA in the last 19 years. Why is that significant? Because that is the period during which adults who were abused as children were coming forward to file lawsuits as states lengthened the period of or removed the statute of limitations for civil cases of child sexual abuse. It is during this period that child victims of past sexual abuse that had been covered up by adults were most likely to reveal what had happened to them as children.

But the database itself is even less complete than that. Over half of the entries list no more than the subject's name, city, state and troop number. For those entries, it is impossible to tell who chartered the unit without doing research that she doesn't say that she did. Rather, she claims that chartering entity was identified in most of the records. That could be true only of the fewer than half of entries that included additional documentation.

And, even worse, those bare bones entries are highly skewed towards recent claims. There is no documentation for any entry dated after 1991. Of the 5000 records, the most recent 2300 have no documentation at all.

Given the information that the article's author is looking for, there is no way that she made a random selection from the entire database. At best, she randomly selected from reports made to BSA over 30 years ago. Keep in mind that that the scandal in Boston, which brought the scandal to the public's attention, was in 2002.

The Times also tells us that the BSA records were purged at various times before 1991. We don't know which records were purged and why.

Finally, I spot checked a few records that included documentations. I could not find the troop sponsors that the author says was in most of the entries. The files generally contained correspondence between the relevant Council and the national organization, but I didn't find any that identified the troop. Also, the religion of the subject may not accurately reflect the sponsoring agency of the troop at the time abuse occurred. For example, a few of the records I reviewed were generated when an individual applied to be a scoutmaster of a specific troop. The troop for which the application was taken was identified, but when the basis for denial of the application was abuse in connection with a previous troop, the sponsor of the earlier troop was not identified. [ETA: I looked at a few more files and found BSA report forms that have a space for the sponsoring agency. Either I missed it when I first looked or there are versions of the form that do not include this information.]

The article is based on the author's assumption that the BSA records are representative of the rate of actual abuse in scout troops. It's clearly not. The records she used omit any reports of abuse after 1991 and have been partially purged. She also assumes that LDS scouts would report sexual abuse to an adult at the same rate as non-LDS scouts and that this information would be passed on to the BSA at the same rates by LDS and non-LDS troops. Given anecdotal reports of how LDS families and leaders responded to accusations of sexual abuse over 30 years ago, there is reason not to simply assume that reporting rates were the same.

Here's an example from one of the entries in the database. I sorted by state for Utah and took the first one that came up (alphabetically, I think.) The file starts with an inquiry about an individual The entry is for Larren Bybee Arnold, 1991, Salt Lake City Utah, No troop number. The file was opened in response to a phone call from someone in the Great Salt Lake Council about the subject, who had reportedly moved to Idaho and may be involved in scouting there. After tracking down relevant information, a letter was sent describing what was found.

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So, the Bishop was aware of the molestation of "one or more scouts." But he talked the mother out of filing a lawsuit and does not appear to have informed BSA of the incident(s). Although "all contacts" expressed concern about the subject and sexual molestation, somehow no one got around to letting BSA know that the subject should be disallowed as a scouting volunteer.

The BSA bankruptcy has over 80,000 abuse claims. The Times' database, while giving us a look at how the BSA handled sexual abuse claims over 30 years ago, is not (and does not purport to be) a representative sample of those claims. It also is clearly not a representative sample of all abuse that occurred in scout troops.

The entire article is GIGO. The author should (but will never be) embarrassed.

But, of course, Peterson uses the paper and the report to attack a straw man. The criticism of the LDS church is not that it is a hotbed of sexual abuse. It is its unwillingness to take steps to protect children from predators that end up in positions that give them access to children. It is also examples of situations in which, like the incident discussed above, church leaders fail to take appropriate action to protect children in response to reports of abuse.
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