Problems with the Catalyst Theory

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Re: Problems with the Catalyst Theory

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High Spy wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2023 6:21 pm
drumdude wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2023 2:44 pm


You had me going until this one, I laughed out loud. This has got to be a parody of something.
What time zone represents the entire world. :?:

Please do let us know as it’s impossible to know the day or the hour of any event without defining a specific time zone. It only proves SLC, Missouri or any other place is important above all other places.
So, shifting AWAY from the SLC time zone proves SLC is "important above all other places"?
The 12 hour shift was a brilliant way to encapsulate all the time zones into a single number and letter.
In what way does a "12 hour shift" encapsulate all time zones?

Come on. Probability is well out the door already in your comments, logic is rapidly following suit.
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What a waste of time A reccent volume of the BYU Studies on the Book of Abraham convinced me they have to make do with the catalyst theory. The Backyard Professor did a video on the hypocephalus using material in part from Egyptologist Mekis' book on the hypocephalus. I gave Brian Hales the link to Kerry's video and his response was "Instead of the backyard professor, I think a better source comes from Egtyptologists. Have you read: byustudies.BYU.edu/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/61-4final.pdf" It was interesting that the final paragraph in the chapter on the hypocephalus said " 'For this reason, any modern interpretation of the meaning of the figures and texts contained on hypocephali should always leave room for the possibility of a plurality of approaches.10"
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Hales sent me the complete volume. Would I be in trouble if I gave the link that allows folks here to read?
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Re: Problems with the Catalyst Theory

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drumdude wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2023 7:19 pm
Moksha wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2023 7:12 pm

Same Birthday as Barak Obama, Elizabeth the Queen Mother, Percy Bysshe Shelley, and some Penguin. Numerically, only the change from Gojira to Godzilla tends to support the Catalyst theory.
Your post ID is 2837976 made at time 1688152344.

Convert to letters and you get B H C G I G F and A F H H A E B C D D.

Barrack Hussein Che Guevara International Gurilla Fighter.

Always Follow Him He Always Enjoys Being Called Dowsing Dan.


The chances of this hidden message existing in your post ID and time stamp that you didn’t choose are a bazillion to one!
See how silly your attempt. It weren’t easy, and you didn’t stick with only ONE NAME.

The birthday paradox is that the more people in a group, the more likely it is, that ANY two people have the same birthday. The more people that enter a lottery the better the chance that ANY person will win. What most people say is their birthday is actually an anniversary of their actual birthday. If the birthday pair must match birth year too, the probability is greatly affected. Did you consider that. :?:

Compare and contrast that with YOU or any ONE person winning the lottery.

Dealing a poker hand of just 5 cards involves 52 factorial, which means that the same two hands has ever happened, if the order of the cards are deemed significant. Many nights I slept in casino parking lots on camping trips while my parents played. I mastered counting blackjack and often win games of chance, such as All Hell a.k.a. Houdini, Aggravation, and Backgammon.

Once I even changed my hand in the game of Tripoli and won. Others at the table remarked that I must have the golden touch, but really just based on the information I had available, it was obvious that trading hands was the smart thing to do, and indeed it was. Most every probability problem comes down to properly arriving at a proper numerator and dividing it by a proper denominator.

In the case of the March 18th earthquake: The denominator is the number of minutes in an time interval spanning many years. 5 million is a reasonable representation. Can you even list 5 similar patterns that spell out CRIST in any order. :?

March 18, is even in month-day order, and accounts for 24 time zones via a 12 hour shift.

Like Tripoli, based on years of past peculiarities I knew what to look for and indeed God’s will was revealed. The 5.7 magnitude was the mark of the DS who blew the lid off the Angel Moroni myth, letting us know it was an embellished story based on Parley P. Pratt’s yearly wagon tract. The Book of Mormon was a transcript he carried on said wagon, that originated with Sidney Rigdon.
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High Spy wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:19 pm
Compare and contrast that with YOU or any ONE person winning the lottery.
It always seems like divine providence when someone wins the 100 million dollar jackpot. Imagine it was you. "What are the odds, God must have picked me, right? What are the odds I'm living in the Universe where I win the Powerball? It can't be random chance."

What happens to these people whom God's finger must have touched to so bless them? They start drinking, lose their family, 70% lose all the money in 5 years, and in many cases end up dead within a few years. The vast majority of lottery winners are cursed by God's statistical blessing.

https://www.rd.com/list/13-things-lottery-winners/

Even when you do find some incredible statistical anomaly, you have all your work ahead of you to prove that it has anything to do with God. Much less Joseph Smith's conception of God.
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hauslern wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2023 8:47 pm
Hales sent me the complete volume. Would I be in trouble if I gave the link that allows folks here to read?
Not at all, please do.
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hauslern wrote:
Sat Jul 01, 2023 2:08 am
https://byustudies.BYU.edu/wp-content/u ... smk19ImNqY

does it work?
Not for me!
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hauslern wrote:
Sat Jul 01, 2023 2:08 am
https://byustudies.BYU.edu/wp-content/u ... smk19ImNqY

does it work?
I can see it.
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"Despite some important advances in scholarship, “we [still] do not
[entirely] know to what we really should compare the facsimiles
.” For
instance, we must ask if Joseph Smith meant to give us “an interpretation
[of the facsimiles] that ancient Egyptians would have held, or one that
only a small group of priests interested in Abraham would have held, or
one that a group of ancient Jews in Egypt would have held, or something
another group altogether would have held.
Or, alternatively, “was he
giving us an interpretation we needed to receive for our spiritual benefit
regardless of how any ancient groups would have seen these?” The fact is
that we don’t know for sure.
While we “can make a pretty good case for the
idea that some Egyptians could have viewed Facsimile 1 the way Joseph
Smith presents it, [we are still] not sure that is the methodology we should
be employing. We just don’t know enough about what Joseph Smith was
doing to be sure about any possible comparisons, or lack thereof.”13
What is clear from all of this is that “much more work needs to be
done before we can understand the facsimiles in their ancient Egyptian
setting, and only then will it be meaningful to ask whether that understanding matches that of Joseph Smith (to the extent that we understand even that)." p.213
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