The magic of plates

[Res Ipsa]

I read that thing through something like seven times, straight through, and I’m not counting scripture study. It was a total morass. Blech.

- Doc

Props. You deserve some kind of medal. I'm thinking I did two or three?

[Marcus]

I read that thing through something like seven times, straight through, and I’m not counting scripture study. It was a total morass. Blech.

- Doc

What bug was up your ass that made you do that? Nevermind, i already cited the two up mine: scrupulosity and ocd.

[Gadianton]

My bias towards the centrality of the plates story, from the time of Nephi to Joseph Smith, may have been the times we reenacted these stories for FHE. Somewhere, there exists pictures of me dressed up in robes approaching my father who was dressed as Laban negotiating for the plates. We had a set of plates my dad had fabricated. They weren't metal except for the rings, but they were painted gold and had Anthon-script characters written on them.

The only time I recall reading the Book of Mormon itself as a family was around the time Benson gave his talk, and we had several failed attempts to read a few verses daily together. I did read it once through for my Freshman Book of Mormon class. Other than that, just here and there. I was into Bible prophecy though, so I read Daniel and Revelations and the D&C.

[Res Ipsa]

My bias towards the centrality of the plates story, from the time of Nephi to Joseph Smith, may have been the times we reenacted these stories for FHE. Somewhere, there exists pictures of me dressed up in robes approaching my father who was dressed as Laban negotiating for the plates. We had a set of plates my dad had fabricated. They weren't metal except for the rings, but they were painted gold and had Anthon-script characters written on them.

The only time I recall reading the Book of Mormon itself as a family was around the time Benson gave his talk, and we had several failed attempts to read a few verses daily together. I did read it once through for my Freshman Book of Mormon class. Other than that, just here and there. I was into Bible prophecy though, so I read Daniel and Revelations and the D&C.

I'd pay a dollar to see that picture. I'm assuming you didn't behead your father...

[Gadianton]

we had cardboard swords and props.

[Moksha]

I read the Lord of the Rings cover to cover 4 times.

[Res Ipsa]

we had cardboard swords and props.

We never did anything that creative for FHE. I don't think we ever read any of the Standard Works as a family.

When you you reflect on those kinds of things you did as an LDS kid, how does it feel? Does it feel normal? Does it feel odd? Not asking for a friend.

[Res Ipsa]

I read the Lord of the Rings cover to cover 4 times.

You chose wisely, oh feathered one.

[huckelberry]

I read the Lord of the Rings cover to cover 4 times.

The only scripture book I have read all the way through more than once is the Iliad. I am not sure I have an explanation for why that happened. Well there is something to that book.

I found reading the Book of Mormon once planted the seeds of doubt about the LDS church in my young mind.It took a while to grow, nourished by a variety of things but it broke my shelf.

[Shulem]

Vanishing plates that are alleged to have been transported to heaven by an angel is an obvious sign that points to fraudulent claims followed by an attempt to cover up physical items which can easily be proven a hoax if handled and examined by those not of the faith. It's elementary, my dear Watson. Smith was never, ever, going to hand over any of the fantastic items whether they be swords, plates, breastplates, spectacles, whatever. The missing stone box fashioned by Moroni is another item that is not available to examine and it coming up missing is a red flag.

Joseph Smith paid no interest in marking the spot of ground in which he found the plates. No marker, no stake, no monument, no memory in which to pay respect other than claiming he found gold plates in a hole in the ground atop the hill Cumorah, somewhere, anywhere, but actually nowhere. Smith was not interested in showing anyone the hole in the ground or paying respect later on by commemorating the hallow ground in which Moroni dedicated the plates through solemn prayer and laid them to rest in a box of his making.

To the apologists: Show us the Goddamn hole in the ground in which the plates were buried! Show us the Goddamn remnants of the sacred stone box in which they lay -- the one that somehow must have slid down the hill into a million pieces! Show us the Goddamn plot of ground in which Moroni appeared!

Daniel C. Peterson, you are a Goddamn liar! The gold plates are no more real than a king's name in Facsimile No. 3. Show me the king's name in the writing of Facsimile No. 3, you Goddamn liar! Show me the name! Spell it out you Goddamn liar!