One in five young adult Mormons in the US are gay, lesbian or bisexual

[TheSonOfKorihor]

Sorry, PIMO? That's new to me.

Sorry. I’m a physically in, mentally out member or PIMO. I guess that’s the Reddit vernacular anyway

[Nomomo]

Am I the only one doubting this 1 in 5 figure?

[huckelberry]

Am I the only one doubting this 1 in 5 figure?

no you are not, I do not know but I find the number high beyond my ability to believe.

[TheSonOfKorihor]

Am I the only one doubting this 1 in 5 figure?

I lifted this from the comment section on the article itself. You aren’t the only one.

So this would suggest that more Mormon Kids identify as LGBT by a factor of 500% than the latest Gallup poll of just overall college students. Sounds unlikely.

And

Statistically impossible, even. Then again, this is what they are saying, not what necessarily reflects reality. There is definitely more than enough pushback against the management of the LDS church to account for this. Even read that way, it is a huge wake up call to the top leadership.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Am I the only one doubting this 1 in 5 figure?

“23% of Gen Zers who identify as LDS say they are lesbian, gay, bisexual or other.” There’s a new term zoomers use called ‘pansexual’ which basically means they're ‘whatever’. I think younger people, thanks to the ubiquitousness of the internet and thus social influence of ‘whatever’ believe themselves to be more ‘whatever’ than previous generations. It’s really interesting to do deep dives into arenas that are born out of the Internet era - culture and social norms are being re-shaped rapidly.

- Doc

[Moksha]

There’s a new term zoomers use called ‘pansexual’ which basically means they're ‘whatever’.

- Doc

Didn't this start with a backroom rendezvous between Lister and his toaster? I say three cheers to one of the younger apologists dressing up in a furry costume and getting all yiffy with a pack of like-minded elders in Helaman Hall. Peter Pan Sexuality!

[malkie]

Posted with Jana's permission:

6/25/21 Update to RNS article: After we published this article on June 21, BYU professor Justin Dyer emailed Jana with some questions about the rates of LGB+ identifiers among LDS respondents in the Nationscape survey. In a nutshell, Nationscape weighted its data to make the sample representative of voters in the United States, but not necessarily of Mormons, which means we should interpret it carefully.

In particular, there is a geographical disparity in the data. The roughly 35% of LDS respondents who were not from the western United States had particularly high rates of sexual diversity, with GenZ Mormons outside the West at 64% heterosexual, compared to the West at 88%. The numbers from the Northeast diverged the most, though the number of LDS respondents there was very small.

It would not be surprising for LDS respondents outside of the Mountain region to be less conservative than those in Mormon-heavy areas, as that’s something we’ve seen on multiple surveys. There is also evidence from multiple surveys (Pew Religious Landscape, Cooperative Election Survey, and Next Mormons Survey) that self-identified Latter-day Saints outside the west are less religiously active, on average, than those in the west. Thus, it is not unreasonable to expect that Nationscape’s data is correct in its overall finding that non-western Mormons report higher levels of sexual diversity than those in the west, since those things often correlate together. However, the difference is a large one, over 20 points, so we think it’s good to exercise caution with the specific percentages that Nationscape reported.

Given that a) Mormons outside the west are less politically conservative and religiously active, on average, than those in the west, and that b) Latter-day Saints outside the west are only one-third of the overall Nationscape sample of Mormons, we suspect that the overall trendlines from the Nationscape data are on the right track (i.e., younger Latter-day Saints are showing higher levels of sexual diversity than previous generations, and those differences are more pronounced in non-Mormon areas). That said, it is unlikely that the rates of sexual diversity are as high as indicated below for GenZ and Millennial Latter-day Saints. Our estimate is that they may be around 7 to 9 percentage points lower than indicated in the Nationscape data reported.

We appreciate those who reached out with this information. This is how science (ideally!) should work—multiple experts review the same evidence and through repeated analyses we (hopefully!) get closer to the truth of what we are studying. It is also important to keep in mind that the averages of multiple surveys tend to be more accurate than any one study standing alone.
For this column, we’re leaving the original column largely as is and adding this addendum because we want to be transparent about what the original conclusion was and what we learned next, and thus how we adjusted our expectations. The original headline and opening statement, however, have been changed to remove Nationscape’s one-fifth figure that is now in dispute.

We will be paying close attention to future studies about sexual orientation and generational change as they become available. – JKR and BRK

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

I'm reading Ready Player 2, the follow-on novel to Ready Player 1. Don't judge me. There's this bit where they

*SPOILER ALERT*

*SPOILER ALERT*

develop a headset that maps the brain and through techno-magic they make it possible to feel reality in their version of the Matrix. Beyond that you can literally download recorded files and be the person that's recording a snippet of their reality. So, in essence, if a surfer is surfing while recording their experience while wearing this headset you are that surfer experiencing their reality. This, of course, is used for da sekshes. Humans being human record every possible sekshes they can think of. The author basically makes it a point that people, billions of people, are experiencing all the sex from all the viewpoints and it radically altered their perception of the Other. In other words, sexuality and sexual identity blurred pretty quickly because people realized that people doing people things are pretty universal and their experiences are basically the same across the board, regardless of who's sexing who.

I think this is what's happening across the Internet. There's seems to be a ubiquitous sense of sexual expression on the Internet. I mean, you can click on many a Reddit thread where, if a sexual innuendo can be made, it's made. Unless a blog, forum, or some other form of social media is heavily moderated there'll be some form of sexual expression made. This has the unintended consequence of destigmatizing sexual behavior and making it less forbidden in the mind of the reader. And since sexual identity and sexual behavior is a sort of blurry line you're exposed to all sorts of sexual expression on the Internet - so it's no wonder that people born into the Internet find themselves sexually flexible, because sex is just a thing rather than a taboo only to be practiced under sanctified conditions.

- Doc

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Dowsing the Dan posts another trans joke in bad taste, of course:

And, last but not least, I call your attention to this inspiring 5.5-minute non-Church video:

Motorcyclist Who Identifies As Bicyclist Sets Cycling World Record

I didn’t link to the video, by the way. He recently posted this:

I couldn’t possibly be more excited than I am about this story: “New Zealand Weightlifter Laurel Hubbard Set To Become First Transgender Athlete To Compete At The Olympics.” With apologies in advance for the subject matter, which some may find uncomfortable but which is in a very real way inescapable, I call your attention in this context to a related article: “Female Weightlifter Suffers Tragic Testicle Injury Just Weeks Before Tokyo Olympics”

He seems to be struggling with transgender acceptance, like a lot of us do. That’s a fair feeling to have, but I get the feeling he’s ok with mocking them, which, considering his own victim mentality when it comes to Mormons being mocked and with the high suicide rates of LGTBQ+ kids in the Church you’d think he’d treat the subject a little more academically or respectfully.

- Doc