Daniel C. Peterson and the Abandonment of Philosophy

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

If anyone is inclined to click on the ‘2005’ link above (which is nothing more than a DCP-pre-blog-blog-post) and wants to save themselves 30 pages of reading I’ll just summarize it for you:



I’m literally not making that up. 30 pages just to say, “I believe because it’s too depressing not to believe.”

Added upon my ass.

- Doc

[Doctor Scratch]

Doctor Robbers:

Is this what you were referring to?:

About a month ago I subscribed to Paul Kingsnorth's substack. He is a great soul and a great writer. N.B. Kingsnorth, not Kingsworth, as "worthy" as his writing may be.

[Doctor Scratch]

I think Daniel uses it because he is exactly at the skill level this book is oriented to. He needs someone like Groothius to walk him slowly through the basics of reasoning and to spell out simple implications, he doesn’t have the capability to pull up the relevant Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (SEP) article and write a meaningful blogpost off of that. As I’ve mentioned before, the SEP is a top of the line reference work complete with exhaustive bibliographies and entries written by active philosophers. It is absolutely free and even undergraduate majors are expected to consult it when needed. I’ve come to the conclusion recently that the SEP is a resource beyond Daniel’s skillset to ever consistently utilize.

Daniel doesn’t want to dwell on a Gospel that is being discussed in “a graduate seminar in analytic philosophy” because that is a Gospel he doesn’t understand and it is a Gospel he cannot defend. Really it is just an expression of ye olde tyme Mopologetics: “If I can’t defend it, then it isn’t Mormonism ''.

Very well said. DCP is presently getting his ass kicked by Dr. Austin Addison (who will be banned shortly, I'm sure), but this is so right. I don't know if you remember or not, Dr. Stak, but DCP once admitted that he relied on a Penguin Guide to Classical Music as a means of figuring out which classical CDs were worth listening to, which is so lame that it's hard to fathom.

But I noticed that he's been in his metier lately, discussing the relative merits of a Burger King Whopper versus an animal-style burger from In-N-Out. Fast food aesthetics seem to fall right in his intellectual sweet spot.

[Gadianton]

Here it is Stak; it's somebody else, Dr. Scratch.

https://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/

Try hard not to laugh:

In a rational world' Mormon theology would be studied in all serious theological colleges and religious studies and philosophical departments, as an astonishingly original and fertile explanatory system or model - perhaps the single most original and radical metaphysical reformulation since... well, the Ancient Greeks, I suppose.

Note that he warns everyone upfront that he's got an itchy trigger finger for banning in the comment section, if you decide to post there.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

I think Daniel uses it because he is exactly at the skill level this book is oriented to. He needs someone like Groothius to walk him slowly through the basics of reasoning and to spell out simple implications, he doesn’t have the capability to pull up the relevant Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (SEP) article and write a meaningful blogpost off of that. As I’ve mentioned before, the SEP is a top of the line reference work complete with exhaustive bibliographies and entries written by active philosophers. It is absolutely free and even undergraduate majors are expected to consult it when needed. I’ve come to the conclusion recently that the SEP is a resource beyond Daniel’s skillset to ever consistently utilize.

Daniel doesn’t want to dwell on a Gospel that is being discussed in “a graduate seminar in analytic philosophy” because that is a Gospel he doesn’t understand and it is a Gospel he cannot defend. Really it is just an expression of ye olde tyme Mopologetics: “If I can’t defend it, then it isn’t Mormonism ''.

Very well said. DCP is presently getting his ass kicked by Dr. Austin Addison (who will be banned shortly, I'm sure), but this is so right. I don't know if you remember or not, Dr. Stak, but DCP once admitted that he relied on a Penguin Guide to Classical Music as a means of figuring out which classical CDs were worth listening to, which is so lame that it's hard to fathom.

But I noticed that he's been in his metier lately, discussing the relative merits of a Burger King Whopper versus an animal-style burger from In-N-Out. Fast food aesthetics seem to fall right in his intellectual sweet spot.

A snifter of orange Fanta, a pastrami Crown burger, and some Vivaldi to wash it all down.

Also, good Lord, has Darth J been resurrected and found a new home on SeN? Dr. AA is positively surgical with his repartee.

- Doc

[DrStakhanovite]

Very well said. DCP is presently getting his ass kicked by Dr. Austin Addison (who will be banned shortly, I'm sure), but this is so right. I don't know if you remember or not, Dr. Stak, but DCP once admitted that he relied on a Penguin Guide to Classical Music as a means of figuring out which classical CDs were worth listening to, which is so lame that it's hard to fathom.

But I noticed that he's been in his metier lately, discussing the relative merits of a Burger King Whopper versus an animal-style burger from In-N-Out. Fast food aesthetics seem to fall right in his intellectual sweet spot.

Lol Daniel gives off the same vibes Patrick Bateman does in the Bret Easton Ellis novel. Not the psychopathic killing, but the parts where Patrick merely rehearses outloud the reviews of music, food, clothes, etc, etc that he reads somewhere to people in conversation as if he was expressing his own thoughts and feelings. It becomes comedic gold when Patrick is waxing philosophically about Whitney Houston tracks to two high-as-a-kite sex workers (Seen here in Christian Bale’s performance).

Every time Daniel opens up about Shakespeare or Beethoven, all I can hear in my head is the following in Daniel’s voice:

Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, 'Duke'. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on 'Duke' where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think 'Invisible Touch' was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums.

And all I see is Daniel when he was being interviewed by Mormon Stories:

[DrStakhanovite]

Here it is Stak; it's somebody else, Dr. Scratch.

https://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/

Try hard not to laugh:

In a rational world' Mormon theology would be studied in all serious theological colleges and religious studies and philosophical departments, as an astonishingly original and fertile explanatory system or model - perhaps the single most original and radical metaphysical reformulation since... well, the Ancient Greeks, I suppose.

Note that he warns everyone upfront that he's got an itchy trigger finger for banning in the comment section, if you decide to post there.

I must have started towards the bottom of the rabbit hole, because the first post I read was about how Rivendell could be defended from an attack by the Dark Lord Sauron and the Witchking of Angmar. I won't spoil the startling conclusion.

This guy's vibes...

[Physics Guy]

Defending a reverse slope has been popular since Waterloo. All Elrond has to do is site his machine guns well and make sure his artillery registers all the passes and fords and such. He's had thousands of years to lay mines and wire, and build dispersed bunkers connected by tunnels. Rivendell is obviously sitting pretty.

The only worrisome threat has been recent, with the deployment of those lizard-bird things for the Nazgûl. Sauron's going to have air supremacy until Gandalf can weaponise the giant eagles.

(The fact that the eagles can outfly the Nazgûl, and have the range to reach Mount Doom even when carrying hobbits, is one of the larger plot holes I know.)

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

I think this fine observation is apropos:

Very well said. DCP is presently getting his ass kicked by Dr. Austin Addison (who will be banned shortly, I'm sure), but this is so right. I don't know if you remember or not, Dr. Stak, but DCP once admitted that he relied on a Penguin Guide to Classical Music as a means of figuring out which classical CDs were worth listening to, which is so lame that it's hard to fathom.

But I noticed that he's been in his metier lately, discussing the relative merits of a Burger King Whopper versus an animal-style burger from In-N-Out. Fast food aesthetics seem to fall right in his intellectual sweet spot.

Lol Daniel gives off the same vibes Patrick Bateman does in the Bret Easton Ellis novel. Not the psychopathic killing, but the parts where Patrick merely rehearses outloud the reviews of music, food, clothes, etc, etc that he reads somewhere to people in conversation as if he was expressing his own thoughts and feelings. It becomes comedic gold when Patrick is waxing philosophically about Whitney Houston tracks to two high-as-a-kite sex workers (Seen here in Christian Bale’s performance).

Every time Daniel opens up about Shakespeare or Beethoven, all I can hear in my head is the following in Daniel’s voice:

Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, 'Duke'. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on 'Duke' where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think 'Invisible Touch' was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums.

And all I see is Daniel when he was being interviewed by Mormon Stories:

I don’t think Morms have the high ground on lifestyle, culture, or even what to do on Sundays.

- Doc

[drumdude]

He’s been making up for lost time. By my count he sees at least 2-3 plays a week these days.

Hopefully he is no longer relying on reader’s digest for classical music recommendations!