Nelson couldn't do it. He was filmed demonstrating how the rock in the hat worked but somewhere in his subterranean brain logic won the war. You can see it in his reflexes and facial expression as he abruptly put the hat down. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/ ... ang=engbill4long wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 5:32 amI often wonder why the church members just don't do a mail-in campaign and ask the current lead "prophet, seer and revelator" to just put the stinkin' peep-stone in the hat already and ask the Mormon god where the Book of Mormon setting is. Maybe it doesn't require the head prophet to do it. Just someone willing to peep into a peep-stone. Anyone here lurking on the forum ever tried your hand at peep-stone gazing? You can purchase very nice banded iron-jasper stones on Amazon for $15. Cheap!sock puppet wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 9:44 pmIn 1947 he wrote his first book, Cumorah—Where? arguing strongly for the Central American setting of the Book of Mormon."
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Yeah, they obviously, and the video made it rather obviously don't believe it happened. And if they do, they KNOW and so do we that THEY can't use the seer stone since they don't have the power or the spirituality or whatever you want to call it.Rivendale wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 1:58 pmNelson couldn't do it. He was filmed demonstrating how the rock in the hat worked but somewhere in his subterranean brain logic won the war. You can see it in his reflexes and facial expression as he abruptly put the hat down. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/med ... n?lang=engbill4long wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 5:32 amI often wonder why the church members just don't do a mail-in campaign and ask the current lead "prophet, seer and revelator" to just put the stinkin' peep-stone in the hat already and ask the Mormon god where the Book of Mormon setting is. Maybe it doesn't require the head prophet to do it. Just someone willing to peep into a peep-stone. Anyone here lurking on the forum ever tried your hand at peep-stone gazing? You can purchase very nice banded iron-jasper stones on Amazon for $15. Cheap!
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Getting answers from prophets that speak only truth and have periscope abilities to see around corners has been reduced to the mundane. Where did the Book of Mormon take place? That battle was lost during the secret meetings of B.H. Roberts back in 1922. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... 5gPCUrYZB7. Those meetings ended in mass testimonials that the Book of Mormon is true despite contrary evidence. How does FAIR Mormon deal with Ferguson? They throw him under the bus and back over him.Philo Sofee wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 2:23 pmYeah, they obviously, and the video made it rather obviously don't believe it happened. And if they do, they KNOW and so do we that THEY can't use the seer stone since they don't have the power or the spirituality or whatever you want to call it.Rivendale wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 1:58 pmNelson couldn't do it. He was filmed demonstrating how the rock in the hat worked but somewhere in his subterranean brain logic won the war. You can see it in his reflexes and facial expression as he abruptly put the hat down. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/med ... n?lang=eng
John L. Sorenson puts it, "largely that of enthusiast and publicist, for which we can be grateful, but he was neither scholar nor analyst." We know of no one who cites Ferguson as an authority, except countercultists, and we suspect that a poll of even those Latter-day Saints most interested in Book of Mormon studies would yield only a small percentage who recognize his name.
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So, FAIR did not take issue with Ferguson's concerns, just labeled him neither scholar nor analyst, and that he's largely forgotten by/unknown to those LDS "most interested in Book of Mormon studies." Read: The LDS church needn't worry about member hemorrhaging because with time, LDS apologetics has ignored Ferguson's concerns and time has passed, doing the trick.Rivendale wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 5:22 pmGetting answers from prophets that speak only truth and have periscope abilities to see around corners has been reduced to the mundane. Where did the Book of Mormon take place? That battle was lost during the secret meetings of B.H. Roberts back in 1922. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... 5gPCUrYZB7. Those meetings ended in mass testimonials that the Book of Mormon is true despite contrary evidence. How does FAIR Mormon deal with Ferguson? They throw him under the bus and back over him.Philo Sofee wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 2:23 pmYeah, they obviously, and the video made it rather obviously don't believe it happened. And if they do, they KNOW and so do we that THEY can't use the seer stone since they don't have the power or the spirituality or whatever you want to call it.
John L. Sorenson puts it, "largely that of enthusiast and publicist, for which we can be grateful, but he was neither scholar nor analyst." We know of no one who cites Ferguson as an authority, except countercultists, and we suspect that a poll of even those Latter-day Saints most interested in Book of Mormon studies would yield only a small percentage who recognize his name.
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Church leaders and apologists have used this tactic since Joseph Smith. There is a saying that a church that dosen't let you leave with your dignity in tact is better characterized as a cult. That is why excommunication is used so often. It is a way of making critics irrelevant to those still in. Character assassination since 1830.sock puppet wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 3:47 pmSo, FAIR did not take issue with Ferguson's concerns, just labeled him neither scholar nor analyst, and that he's largely forgotten by/unknown to those LDS "most interested in Book of Mormon studies." Read: The LDS church needn't worry about member hemorrhaging because with time, LDS apologetics has ignored Ferguson's concerns and time has passed, doing the trick.Rivendale wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 5:22 pm
Getting answers from prophets that speak only truth and have periscope abilities to see around corners has been reduced to the mundane. Where did the Book of Mormon take place? That battle was lost during the secret meetings of B.H. Roberts back in 1922. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... 5gPCUrYZB7. Those meetings ended in mass testimonials that the Book of Mormon is true despite contrary evidence. How does FAIR Mormon deal with Ferguson? They throw him under the bus and back over him.