Pro-Trump media thread

[Bret Ripley]

Gadianton:

When you say the media is speculating about Trump “flipping,” what exactly do they mean? Or, in other words, what does him flipping look like?

It's a fair question, and I'm not sure I have a great example of a flip from negative to positive hero.

Andre the Giant has always been my 'go-to' when I'm asked this question.

Alas, I have never been asked this question.

[Gadianton]

I think you're right about Andre.

[Gadianton]

Today's Christian Nationalist and Trump Pastor is David Grisham, who last year became famous for wearing a Grinch costume and harassing kids, telling them Santa isn't real but Jesus is. (cough)

Fast forward to last week, and Pastor Grisham finds himself at the Republican National Convention where he's among like-minded right-thinkin' folk, wearing his "Planned Parenthood murders children and rapes their mothers" t-shirt. Pretty much sums up the depth of thinking of today's Republican party and he's right at home with that shirt among other MAGA Republicans knowing nothing of anything important.

At the convention, he meets up with three other pastors, one of whom is local to the area. The local offers to buy the others lunch at Subway, which is quite generous considering that before Bidenomics, a footlong meatball marinara (my favorite) was only 5$ and now thanks to Joe Biden personally, it's 10$+. That's 40$+ four all four, but possibly much more, as the meatball is a value sub! And by the looks of these guys, they're going to want a bag of chips and a big drink (I never get the chips and drink). I don't know which one was the local: the guy wearing the "abortion is murder" shirt, the guy wearing "Homo sex is sin (Romans I)" shirt, or the "Repent" shirt with hell flames.

The young woman employed by Subway told them to pound sand and refused to serve them. And so they recorded the incident as victims of the deep state and the Daily Mail felt their plight:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... isham.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKM6m6zBL9Q

[Moksha]

This is the same problem Ajax faces once MAGA either secedes or takes over. Once the liberals are out of the way, it will be up to all the liars who united enough to achieve their common goal to out lie each other as they stake their claims within the new regime.

The ones with the most powerful A.I. lie generators and high-speed bot posting will win. Another metric might be the bot engaging the largest number of board posters arguing against them. A third metric might be the number of moderators allowing the bots to post outside of some designated "spirit prison".

[Some Schmo]

Lazy bills, crazy pills, fillin’ up on hazy fills
Don’t wanna know what’s really true
Watchin’ news hatin’ Jews, it’s the tool they like to use
What’s the world coming to?

Why can’t we be real?

Crock o’ crap, he’s a hit, wonder if the diapers fit
Don’t really want to know what’s true
More the same, always blame, that’s our major claim to fame
What’s the world coming to?

Why can’t we be real?

Fast times, bad rhymes, these could be the last times
Don’t want to really know what’s true
Climate change, free range for the ruthlessly deranged
What’s the world coming to?

Why can’t we be real?

[ajax18]

Kish said Republicans quit caring about character? Is what you are suggesting reality? Is it true?

It’s a fair conclusion. Republicans have lined up to support a man who has done the following:

- Been found liable of sexual assault,

- Been found guilty of fraud,

- Has filed for bankruptcy multiple times,

- Has punted over a billion dollars worth of his past tax liabilities on to the Joe and Jane Six Packs of America, to be covered by their own tax obligation,

- Has admittedly cheated on several of his wives,

- Had largely ignored one of his children until it was convenient to acknowledge her,

- Had to settle a housing discrimination case for one of his properties after being dragged into court for it,

- Had to settle a court case alleging fraudulent practices at ‘Trump University’,

- Was a known friend of that Epstein fellow for decades, and has been the subject of rape allegations (including of minors) in conjunction with that friendship,

- Screwed a pornstar while his wife was at home tending to her first child, then tried to bury the story via illegal payments,

- Has a reputation for non-payment or abuse of many tradesmen or subcontractors who’ve done work for him,

- Praises international dictators and seems slavishly obsequious to Russia’s Putin,

- Has bragged that he would have no problem with Russia killing off citizens of other countries and taking their land if they don’t ’pay up’ to NATO,

- Seems devoid of compassion or humility,

- Is unable to be truthful about most anything, even about stupid minor things,

- Egged on a crowd of folks to attack the Capitol on J6 on the premise that the election was ‘stolen’,

- Spends inordinate amounts of time each day tweeting out insults at people and punching down on anyone that he thinks he can get away with bullying.

… I could go on, but I’m tired of typing.

Even Binger has proudly stated on multiple occasions his own argument that folks like Trump because Trump is an asshole. . : D

Both the list above and Binger’s argument would seem to support the conclusion allegedly voiced by Gad and Kish. Otherwise, can you tell me how you believe that character is factoring into anyone’s choice of Trump as their candidate, or how you’d argue that any Trump voter actually cared enough about character to guide their choice?

As Trump said today so succinctly, Who wants open borders? Who wants higher taxes? Who wants expensive green energy and expensive gasoline? Who wants inflation? Who wants another scamdemic? I recognize some people have their reasons for wanting these things, but I still think they're in the minority.

Kishkumen is right. These things matter more to me than whether Trump had an affair decades ago, not that I trust the partisan lying media who spin these stories.

[Gadianton]

Today's Christian Nationalist is Calvary Chapel's Jack Hibbs. He's the guy I couldn't remember a few days ago. Calvary Chapel is a weird church to say the least, I used to alternate between listening to their broadcasts and Tom Leykis on my way home from work many years ago. What a foreshadowing of Christian nationalists vs. junkyard dogs that was!

Hibbs is a big deal among stupid people. He gave a right-wing prayer as the guest chaplain to congress a few months ago, having been invited by Mike Johnson. He basically apologized to God for the left, talking about "national sins" and the "coming judgment". I must give Hibbs credit for one thing. After Trump got grazed by a bullet, Hibbs went on a rant comparing it to blood rituals in Leviticus, a major eye roll, but he chastised Trump for not bending his knee and recognizing Jesus Christ as God. Trump spoke of God sparing his life, but Hibbs seems frustrated that Trump left the identify of God open, rather than locking God's providence down to only Jesus Christ and let's face it, a certain narrow interpretation of Christ. Trust me, Ajax won't be welcome in the USA of 2038 unless he ditches Mormonism and gets to know the real Jesus. Calvary Chapel ain't no fan of Joseph Smith, I've listened to enough of them to know that much.

But again, it was refreshing to hear an unhinged, right-wing lunatic pastor who is an absolute fruit loop take Trump to task, and doesn't default to Trump pastorhood. The suggestion seems to be that Trump himself will face hell unless he accepts Jesus as his personal savior like everyone else must, no free passes.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... tionalist/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSu1K2Sw2f8

[canpakes]

As Trump said today so succinctly, Who wants open borders? Who wants higher taxes? Who wants expensive green energy and expensive gasoline? Who wants inflation? Who wants another scamdemic? I recognize some people have their reasons for wanting these things, but I still think they're in the minority.

Well, you’ll need to make some kind of case for Trump, then. Because inflation was already on the rise when he exited the building, he botched the ‘scamdemic’, and presided over an oil industry recession. Just so happens that today we pump more crude oil out of the ground than any other time in our history. This record volume is happening during that Biden guy’s presidency. Imagine that.

What remains is railing against the folks who help pick the veggies you eat and cut your grass. Perhaps you thought that Trump really cared enough about that to stop employing those same illegals at his own business properties? Because he didn’t.

MAGA is left supporting a guy who polluted the office of the Presidency with his BS and cronyism while he extracted their tax dollars into the bank accounts of his family, along with getting them to buy his branded merch that was made in China after convincing them that fighting with their neighbors at Costco over toilet paper was the mark of a successful economy.

Maybe you can tell me how his plan to slap tariffs on all of the stuff you’re buying from Walmart is going to reduce your shopping bills. I don’t know. Seems like you’ve got a steep hill to climb if you’re going to try to sell reasonable folks that aren’t prone to join a felon-loving cult on the idea that Trump 2.0 is the one to pick.

[Gadianton]

Not to mention the fact that wealth is relative and regressive tax cuts are effectively a tax increase on the middle and working class and poor. And that big tax discounts to onshore 2 trillion dollars of big tech money isn't going to "trickle down" via investment to anybody, when tech booms wane, return to capital falls, and unproductive capital and assets like single family homes and apartments are the next best opportunities for truckloads of cash. It's funny how conservatives became so obsessed with that book "The road to serfdom" that it became their blueprint for installing a Christian monarchy backed by billionaires.

[Some Schmo]

As Harris said so succinctly, who wants chaos? Who wants hate? Who wants fear? Who wants another four years of incompetence? I recognize some people have their reasons for wanting these things, but I still think they're in the minority.