I remember Louis Midgley once posted to the effect that without the 10 Commandments there would be no Western civilization. Louis made this comment shortly after posting the question, "Don't they worship monkeys in Hinduism?"
Not Louis Midgley's finest hour.
Hi Everybody Wang Chung, Somehow the idea of posting ten commandments is able to bring out some negative stuff from people. I do not think posting it in schools is a good idea and hope courts resist it. It is not entirely clear how that will work out.
I guess I could note the fairly obvious. There are two different ideas that can be taken from the Bible. One God created, respects and has good purpose for all. On the other hand it may be read that god cares for our group and is against those other outside peoples.
Sock Puppet, perhaps respect yourself could be rule one.
It was respect I was concerned with in thinking of the god category (I might be inclined to think the idea of god is stronger without people's dubious dogmas)
I remind myself that respect for oneself can be one-sided and become destructive if blind to others. It needs to be paired with respect the people around you in the same way. (back to, repeats, a Biblical summation of the commandments)
"You shall love your neighbor as yourself", which appears in the Bible in Matthew 22:38-39 and Leviticus 19:18. That presupposes loving oneself, but is not one of the 10 Commandments. It is dubbed as the 2nd GREAT Commandment. Is there anywhere in the four Gospels that Jesus commands/argues for the 10?
Luke 18, partially, but the others are implied ("the commandments"):
A certain ruler asked him, "Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?" "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good-except God alone. You know the commandments: 'You shall not commit adultery, you shall not murder, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, honor your father and mother.'" All these I have kept since I was a boy," he said. When Jesus heard this, he said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
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"You shall love your neighbor as yourself", which appears in the Bible in Matthew 22:38-39 and Leviticus 19:18. That presupposes loving oneself, but is not one of the 10 Commandments. It is dubbed as the 2nd GREAT Commandment. Is there anywhere in the four Gospels that Jesus commands/argues for the 10?
Luke 18, partially, but the others are implied ("the commandments"):
A certain ruler asked him, "Good teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?" "Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good-except God alone. You know the commandments: 'You shall not commit adultery, you shall not murder, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, honor your father and mother.'" All these I have kept since I was a boy," he said. When Jesus heard this, he said to him, "You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
Do these monuments littered around courthouses and public places include the this requirement enunciated by Jesus to sell everything and give to the poor? Seems those promoting these monuments and Louisiana requiring a posting of the 10 Commandments in schools are more Mosaic than Christian.
"The truth has no defense against a fool determined to believe a lie." – Mark Twain
"You shall love your neighbor as yourself", which appears in the Bible in Matthew 22:38-39 and Leviticus 19:18. That presupposes loving oneself, but is not one of the 10 Commandments. It is dubbed as the 2nd GREAT Commandment. Is there anywhere in the four Gospels that Jesus commands/argues for the 10?
Luke 18 comes to mind:
"Now a certain ruler asked Him, saying, “Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?”
19 So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. 20You know the commandments: ‘Do not commit adultery,’ ‘Do not murder,’ ‘Do not steal,’ ‘Do not bear false witness,’ ‘Honor your father and your mother.’ ”
21And he said, “All these things I have kept from my youth.”
Not all ten stated but clearly referencing the ten commandments.
My thought was wondering if and how a secular counterpart to the ten commandments could be put together and take a place in public schools. I suppose the ten commandments has the advantage of being genuinely old. I find myself reflecting from time to time on the relationship of a human being told to respect oneself reminding people of their inner sense of this obligation and the idea of being created by God who assigns us the obligation of respect for self and others.
Maybe instead let teachers decide what universal values they will teach. Why need any verbal mantra posted universally in schools?
"The truth has no defense against a fool determined to believe a lie." – Mark Twain
Do these monuments littered around courthouses and public places include the this requirement enunciated by Jesus to sell everything and give to the poor? Seems those promoting these monuments and Louisiana requiring a posting of the 10 Commandments in schools are more Mosaic than Christian.
Apparently so.
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Maybe instead let teachers decide what universal values they will teach. Why need any verbal mantra posted universally in schools?
I agree with the last part, but as for the first part, that would be a "thanks, but hell no." Such things are usually (and rightfully) the purview of school boards that have voter and parental oversight, at least in school districts where the voters and parents care.
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I agree with the last part, but as for the first part, that would be a "thanks, but hell no." * * *
I'd be interested in hearing your take on the Supreme Court's 2022 decision in Kennedy v Bremerton School District.
Why?
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