Secret Combinations: Is a Secret Group of LDS Apologists Influencing LDS Missionaries?

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huckelberry wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:43 pm
Missionaries being sent home seemed far-fetched to me but I am really outside of the loop on how that danger might work.
Being willing to keep secrets and spread apologetic misinformation might even get them boosted to a zone or area leader.
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Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:32 pm
Rebecca Bibliotheca at the Mormonish Podcast posted the following on July 26:
Like Scripture Central, the church uses them and has plausible deniability. In other words the church is using The Cavalry as an unofficial channel to try and answer impossible questions. There you have it.
Exactly.
So when the Bretheren encourage you to be bold in answering questions, and in bearing your testimony, they mean you. They don’t mean themselves. They intend to answer no questions and instead get some naïve shills to do it unofficially. They ain’t going to practice what they preach. Bradley et al are idiots for agreeing to do it, and they’ll be left high and dry if it goes bad.
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I Have Questions wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:01 pm
They intend to answer no questions and instead get some naïve shills to do it unofficially.
I mean, to be fair, there is only one briefcase with all of the answers in it. Kind of hard to distribute a single briefcase to an army of missionaries.
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Analytics wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:32 pm
Rebecca Bibliotheca at the Mormonish Podcast posted the following on July 26:
Like Scripture Central, the church uses them and has plausible deniability. In other words, the church is using The Cavalry as an unofficial channel to try and answer impossible questions. There you have it.
That would help explain why someone as prudent as Don Bradley would be involved with this project. Covert approval by the Church would be meaningful to him even if it sounds deceitful to us to pretend it is a completely private and sub-rosa group.
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My phone call with Don Bradley Sunday left me with the impression he was unaware of any church approval for The Calvary, covert or otherwise.
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consiglieri wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:41 pm
My phone call with Don Bradley Sunday left me with the impression he was unaware of any church approval for The Calvary, covert or otherwise.
I would trust him, but I also don't know how aware he would be. It is not like he has the Brethren on speed dial.
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consiglieri wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:41 pm
My phone call with Don Bradley Sunday left me with the impression he was unaware of any church approval for The Calvary, covert or otherwise.
Any chance he knows the first rule of Fight Club?
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consiglieri wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:41 pm
My phone call with Don Bradley Sunday left me with the impression he was unaware of any church approval for The Calvary, covert or otherwise.
Am I on crack, or was there some advice on the Cavalry's private page that discouraged Cavalry members from telling their mission presidents of their participation/membership?
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consiglieri wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:41 pm
My phone call with Don Bradley Sunday left me with the impression he was unaware of any church approval for The Calvary, covert or otherwise.
Then he’s an even bigger idiot for getting involved in something like this without official Church approval. He’s technically leading missionaries astray by interjecting himself - an unauthorised, unapproved source, into their search for answers. It’s subversive.
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I Have Questions wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:07 pm
consiglieri wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:41 pm
My phone call with Don Bradley Sunday left me with the impression he was unaware of any church approval for The Calvary, covert or otherwise.
Then he’s an even bigger idiot for getting involved in something like this without official Church approval. He’s technically leading missionaries astray by interjecting himself - an unauthorised, unapproved source, into their search for answers. It’s subversive.
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