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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:37 pm
Doctor Steuss wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:18 pm

Speaking of, the official Trump/Vance campaign store has a T-shirt with Trump wearing a crown. Because, America loves that sort of thing... or something.

King Trump T-Shirt

You can also buy "Never Surrender" stuff... with a picture of Trump literally surrendering himself to law enforcement, because MAGA generally has the cognitive bandwidth of a potato clock.
And this is the man that President Russell M. Nelson, earth's spokesperson and representative for Jesus Christ, will be voting for.
Is there any compelling evidence that Russell M. Nelson is actually going to vote for Trump? If this is really true, I can't think of any more devastating disproof of him being divinely inspired by a benevolent deity, if such a thing exists. If President Nelson actually approves of voting for Trump, he is far more likely to be inspired by Satan than by God!

Consider what LDS leaders hae actually sais about election choices:
Doctrine and Covenants 98:10 proclaims that “honest men and wise men should be sought for diligently” to run the government.

The dispatch from the church’s top leaders — President Russell M. Nelson and his counselors, Dallin H. Oaks and Henry B. Eyring — is remarkable for several reasons but primarily for the explicit rebuke of voting for political candidates based only on their party affiliation.

Sam Brunson, a law professor at Loyola University Chicago who writes at the popular Latter-day Saint-centered website By Common Consent, said Tuesday the letter’s language was more direct than almost anything else regarding politics he has ever seen from the church brass.

“It’s very explicit about the idea that we shouldn’t use political affiliation as a proxy for the correct person. In Utah, especially among Mormons, what that means is just because there’s an ‘R’ [for Republican] beside their name doesn’t mean you need to vote for them,” Brunson said. “This one is really hard to ignore. It doesn’t say you should vote for a Democrat, by any means, but it very explicitly says just because they’re a Republican doesn’t mean that they’re the best person that you should vote for.”

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The message from church leaders will most likely be welcomed by Utah’s beleaguered Democrats, who long have struggled to break through the chokehold Republicans have held on the state’s electoral politics. Republicans are a supermajority in the Legislature and have won every statewide contest since 1998.

Utah Democratic Party Vice Chair Oscar Mata applauded the letter’s focus on agency, a cornerstone of Latter-day Saint doctrine.

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The message from church leaders will most likely be welcomed by Utah’s beleaguered Democrats, who long have struggled to break through the chokehold Republicans have held on the state’s electoral politics. Republicans are a supermajority in the Legislature and have won every statewide contest since 1998.

Utah Democratic Party Vice Chair Oscar Mata applauded the letter’s focus on agency, a cornerstone of Latter-day Saint doctrine.
If President Nelson really is the divinely inspired advocate for honesty and morality that LDS members believe him to be, it is unimaginable to me that he would have anything but utter contempt for Donald J. Trump!
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No precept or claim is more suspect or more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:18 pm
It's not so different in effect from choosing a new dictator every twelve years. It's not the American way[...]
Speaking of, the official Trump/Vance campaign store has a T-shirt with Trump wearing a crown. Because, America loves that sort of thing... or something.

King Trump T-Shirt

You can also buy "Never Surrender" stuff... with a picture of Trump literally surrendering himself to law enforcement, because MAGA generally has the cognitive bandwidth of a potato clock.
That MAGA "King Cotton" t-shirt is also an obvious dog whistle to people who miss the "Old South," i.e., the South of Jim Crowe and even slavery.
"I have learned with what evils tyranny infects a state. For it frustrates all the virtues, robs freedom of its lofty mood, and opens a school of fawning and terror, inasmuch as it leaves matters not to the wisdom of the laws, but to the angry whim of those who are in authority.”
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See also: First Presidency letter emphasizes Latter-day Saints’ participation in elections and civic affairs, reaffirms political neutrality
As in previous First Presidency letters, the latest directive reemphasizes the Church’s political neutrality and its encouragement for members to vote and participate in civic affairs. It also underscores the importance to be informed about issues and candidates and that some principles compatible with the gospel can be found in various political parties and platforms.

The letter also encourages members to study candidates carefully and to vote for those demonstrating integrity, compassion and service to others — regardless of party affiliation.

“Merely voting a straight ticket or voting based on ‘tradition’ without careful study of the candidates and their positions on important issues is a threat to democracy and inconsistent with revealed standards,” the letter states, citing Doctrine and Covenants 98:10 and adding that information on candidates is available through the internet, debates and other sources.
The sentence I emboldened above should by itself dissuade any Mormon who is both honest and well-informed from even beginning to seriously consider voting for Trump! It only becomes more and more glaringly obvious that Trump cares for virtually nothing that benefits anyone or anything other than himself.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 6:37 pm
Doctor Steuss wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:18 pm

Speaking of, the official Trump/Vance campaign store has a T-shirt with Trump wearing a crown. Because, America loves that sort of thing... or something.

King Trump T-Shirt

You can also buy "Never Surrender" stuff... with a picture of Trump literally surrendering himself to law enforcement, because MAGA generally has the cognitive bandwidth of a potato clock.
And this is the man that President Russell M. Nelson, earth's spokesperson and representative for Jesus Christ, will be voting for.

Where did you hear that? The Brethren are more tight lipped about their personal politics than Kamala Harris is on her actual campaign policy. Vote for me and I'll... I'll cackling, cackling, cackling, Well you have to make president first before I can tell you what my policies are now. Like Nancy Pelosi saying, We have to pass the bill, so we can see what's in it."
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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“Merely voting a straight ticket or voting based on ‘tradition’ without careful study of the candidates and their positions on important issues is a threat to democracy and inconsistent with revealed standards,” the letter states, citing Doctrine and Covenants 98:10 and adding that information on candidates is available through the internet, debates and other sources.
And there it is, proof that our leaders aren't perfect. Can anyone tell me exactly where to find Kamala Harris's current positions are on any of the issues? Did the brethren write this after we got our first unelected/appointed presidential candidate at too late a date for her to post an actual platform? If she's running on the Biden record of the last four years, than how is she a candidate for positive change? Perhaps for most of you change means unapologetic left wing democratic socialism that was so radical it couldn't survive the Democratic primary of 2020, let alone a general election. What has she adopted from Joe Biden? Now she knows it's best to lie and tell people you're a moderate in very broad and undefinable terms, before you govern like a left wing Democrat. But always protect the identity of whatever elected official is really making the decisions in the oval office. Lie and tell the American people that Joe Biden is fit as a fiddle and doing 4D chess, when he belongs in a nursing home and has the entire 4 years!. He's the man you want negotiating with Putin or Xi on behalf of America. But whatever the cost, never reveal which unelected official is really making the decisions behind the scenes and in the shadows because people are too stupid to vote the way they should, so we gotta lie and hide the truth from them. But we gotta save democracy! We save it through censoring social media and imprisoning our political opponents and critics. Yes the party of DEMOCRACY!! What a joke!
“This one is really hard to ignore. It doesn’t say you should vote for a Democrat, by any means, but it very explicitly says just because they’re a Republican doesn’t mean that they’re the best person that you should vote for.”
I wish my family would have read that before they gave money to the Mitt Romney campaign of 2012.
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ajax18 wrote:
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Can anyone tell me exactly where to find Kamala Harris's current positions are on any of the issues?
https://www.whitehouse.gov/therecord/
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2024 12:43 am
ajax18 wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:59 pm
Can anyone tell me exactly where to find Kamala Harris's current positions are on any of the issues?
https://www.whitehouse.gov/therecord/
Please stop muddying the waters with primary sources. :roll:
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Keep your cats locked up....


Did I hear Trump basically say he would cede Ukraine to Putin as Putin has nukes?
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:59 pm
Can anyone tell me exactly where to find Kamala Harris's current positions are on any of the issues?
https://kamalaharris.com/issues/
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Manetho wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2024 3:05 am
ajax18 wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2024 10:59 pm
Can anyone tell me exactly where to find Kamala Harris's current positions are on any of the issues?
https://kamalaharris.com/issues/
Build an Opportunity Economy and Lower Costs for Families
Vice President Harris grew up in a middle class home as the daughter of a working mom. She believes that when the middle class is strong, America is strong. That’s why as President, Kamala Harris will create an Opportunity Economy where everyone has a chance to compete and a chance to succeed—whether they live in a rural area, small town, or big city.

Vice President Kamala Harris has made clear that building up the middle class will be a defining goal of her presidency. (Do you think she can do any better than Biden?) That’s why she will make it a top priority to bring down costs and increase economic security for all Americans. Is it not a top priority for her or whoever the hell is actually serving as president right now? As President, she will fight to cut taxes for more than 100 million working and middle class Americans while lowering the costs of everyday needs like health care, housing, and groceries.How is she going to do that? Because whatever she's been doing for the past four years sure hasn't been working too well. She will bring together organized labor and workers, small business owners, entrepreneurs, and American companies to create good paying jobs, grow the economy, and ensure that America continues to lead the world. Why didn't she do that four years ago?

Cut Taxes for Middle Class Families
-whatever "tax cut" I've seen has been eaten up many times over by Bidenflation
Make Rent More Affordable and Home Ownership More Attainable
More communist price controls. Didn't the moratorium on rent create more affordable housing?
Grow Small Businesses and Invest in Entrepreneurs
Why didn't you do that four years ago?
Take on Bad Actors and Bring Down Costs
More command economy price controls. Let's repeat the same mistakes again. Is that what you call moving forward?
Strengthen and Bring Down the Cost of Health Care
And say good bye to your private health insurance or face jail time if this woman gets elected. Now everyone can enjoy the quality of care and convenience offered at medicaid mills even if you work 60 hours/week and are not on welfare.
Protect and Strengthen Social Security and Medicare
By making their benefits so insignificant and unlivable that people will be forced to continue working till the day they give up the ghost while you continue to sock the social security tax to them through their 70s and 80s.
Support American Innovation and Workers
Nobody is going to start a business in an America ruled by Bernie Sanders ideology. People don't just put their entire life and in most cases generations of lives into family businesses so that the government can just repeatedly cut them off at the knees and redistribute anything that's left when you pass away. You think you're increasing government income. All your doing is driving innonvation overseas and workers to realize that the more you work, the more you're going to get taxed.

Provide a Pathway to the Middle Class Through Quality, Affordable Education
more platitudes and word salad that has no real meaning. This is like trying to pin jello to the wall

Invest in Affordable Child Care and Long Term Care
How about adults take an interest in the children and their aging parents. Do they think the government is going to do a better job of it for them?

Lower Energy Costs and Tackle the Climate Crisis?
Why didn't they do that four years ago? We know that gasoline is twice as much as it was under Trump. If Harris is elected it'll likely go back to where it went under Biden in 2021. But more importantly how much better off is the climate given the price we've paid for it under Democrat rule for 12 of the last 16 years. How much cooler is the earth since the Solyndra green energy boondoggle?

Well isn't that what they've been promising for the past four years? How well has this approach worked over the past four years? Or better yet, why wait until after the next election to put this new plan into place instead of just talking about it and making promises? Because it's just the same failed policies being sold by a different face. Moving forward? This is going to be just as bad or worse than the last four years have been. And I'm sorry but even if only forty percent of people are really going to pull the lever for this obvious line of BS, we deserve the suffering that is coming our way because of it.
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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