How wrong you are. Frank Lutz just called the election for Kamala because of Trump's idiotic performance. He pointed out how the election will be made by swing voters and WOMEN, while Trump is only playing to his cult base and wouldn't even look at Kamala which sends a message to every woman in the country who knows the feeling of being disrespected in that way. He said it is so bad that the Democrats have at LEAST a 50% chance of taking control of the House, Senate as well.ceeboo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:51 pmYeah, at best, that was a really bizarre claim by Trump.Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 2:29 pm
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I think Trump clearly lost this debate, but just like the last debate between Trump and Biden, it doesn't matter. These debates are meaningless, and they don't sway anyone. They just make each side dig in deeper.
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Where are you at in this now Veritas? Are you still saying that inflation has made poorer people who owe more money than they're worth wealthier? Have your Marxist positions been necessarily modified by the real world results of the last four years as they have for Harris? I'm talking about what you're willing to say before you take power. I know you'll never betray your core values of open borders, getting rid of all the old white men, and Marxism, just as she won't. Do you still believe Joe Biden is plenty capable of another four years or did that change only 75 days ago?Why do you bother posting all of this dumb crap as if anyone reads it but you? You reveal time and time again you are entirely dependent on the fake news of Brietbart to tell you what to believe, and cannot deal with any point by point discussion that requires you to actually think.
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The Democrats might have my vote this time as well. It's not conventional warfare but based on the last four years it's sure to be pretty darn effective.Vēritās wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 4:42 pmHow wrong you are. Frank Lutz just called the election for Kamala because of Trump's idiotic performance. He pointed out how the election will be made by swing voters and WOMEN, while Trump is only playing to his cult base and wouldn't even look at Kamala which sends a message to every woman in the country who knows the feeling of being disrespected in that way. He said it is so bad that the Democrats have at LEAST a 50% chance of taking control of the House, Senate as well.ceeboo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:51 pm
Yeah, at best, that was a really bizarre claim by Trump.
I think Trump clearly lost this debate, but just like the last debate between Trump and Biden, it doesn't matter. These debates are meaningless, and they don't sway anyone. They just make each side dig in deeper.
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Still far more educated than you. I don't rely on fake news sites to do my thinking. This has been your M.O for how many years now? Since the Obama administration at least.ajax18 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 4:44 pmWhere are you at in this now Veritas?Why do you bother posting all of this dumb crap as if anyone reads it but you? You reveal time and time again you are entirely dependent on the fake news of Brietbart to tell you what to believe, and cannot deal with any point by point discussion that requires you to actually think.
In some cases it has. But I'm saying inflation is something you only pretend to care about. Inflation is actually now what it was under Trump in June and July of 2018, except wage growth is still outpacing inflation after the Inflation Reduction Act was signed.Are you still saying that inflation has made poorer people who owe more money than they're worth wealthier?
You idiots are a trip. You bitch and moan about said positions, but then bitch and moan when someone no longer holds them. "How dare she make me have to recreate new talking points!"Have your Marxist positions been necessarily modified by the real world results of the last four years as they have for Harris?
Nobody believes in open borders and we've never had open borders. You're an idiot. Illegal immigrants were far more likely to be caught and sent back under Biden than they were under Trump. Facts.I'm talking about what you're willing to say before you take power. I know you'll never betray your core values of open borders
From political office? Sounds like a great idea. We need leadership that looks like America. Not something you'd find at a billionaire's country club.getting rid of all the old white men
Sure he is, because like most sane President's he relies on the guidance of those who are experts in said fields. Trump is a moron who fires anyone who doesn't go along with his asinine ideas.Do you still believe Joe Biden is plenty capable of another four years or did that change only 75 days ago?
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I think aborting a viable baby because it's just not the right time is disgusting and is closer to Nazism than anything else going on in the USA today.Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:25 pm
Critics seized on the lack of explicit mention of a terminal condition to distort Gov. Northam’s following remark:
"If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother."
Northam was speaking about situations involving infants with severe deformities or non-viable conditions, where families and doctors would make decisions about palliative care.
But, it’s important for you to remember that Ajax is utterly retarded, and has exactly zero interest in reading anything that isn’t a news ticker on Fox News, or a tweet on False Social. For example, he keeps saying he doesn’t know any of Harris’ positions even though I provided him two links. The reason? Well, he’d have to read for understanding and he can’t do that because he’s a refrigerator magnet.
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As a teenager I remember reading about this case of a failed abortion every morning.
https://www.nytimes.com/1978/04/10/arch ... aline.html
If people think this still doesn't go on they are delusional. It's simply insane for someone to be able to abort an eight-month-old fetus when it can survive in a hospital in the USA.
https://www.axios.com/2024/04/11/aborti ... -state-map
If someone driving under the influence runs a red light and t-bones a car killing the mother and eight-month-old fetus that person faces two homicide charges in California whether it be 2nd degree murder or manslaughter.
Also, today we have open heart surgery being done on fetuses to correct heart defects. Babies are born prematurely for many reasons and are rushed to Neonatal Intensive Care Unit (NICU) and sometimes they are so premature that they are there for months until a parents or caretaker can take them home.
I said before that if a ten-year-old girl is attacked and finds out months later she is pregnant that the state should not say she is banned from have a surgical procedure which means terminating the pregnancy. On the other hand we all know about late term abortions that go on everyday in the USA and I'll just stop there because it's just sick.
Why are a numerous petitions filed in Superior Court in California stating that on or about such and such a date , the minor, baby-so and so was born positive for heroin and such condition would not exist except by the unreasonable acts from minors mother. Many times a baby is born at 24 weeks due to his/her mother's daily heroin use. If it's the mother's choice and her body then why file a petition saying she caused harm.
But as usual it's people at the fringe-left and fringe-right that are so far from truth and what is correct.
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Actually I did find a good link for Harris's actual positions all in one place today on Breitbart. It was Veritas who pointed out that nobody on here can/will read them. Did you read my link Doc? Can you read? Does DocCam read?For example, he keeps saying he doesn’t know any of Harris’ positions even though I provided him two links. The reason? Well, he’d have to read for understanding and he can’t do that because he’s a refrigerator magnet.
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Omg. I don't normally comment in threads Ajax participates in, so I have to ask. People, is this how Ajax normally posts? This comment above is ridiculously funny. I would think it was sarcasm, but I'm not sure...ajax18 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 12, 2024 4:27 pmWell he shouldn't have spoken about it until it becomes more widespread. Mitt Romney looked pretty foolish in 2012 when Obama told him that the 1980s called and wanted their foreign policy back when he expressed concerns about Russia invading Crimea and then Ukraine.Yeah, at best, that was a really bizarre claim by Trump.
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Well, well. So Trump is refusing another debate. He says it's because he won ... yeah, right.
The Guardian, 12 September, 20:31:
Reuter's, 8:07 PM GMT+2
The Guardian, 12 September, 20:31:
Meanwhile, Harris has a growing lead over Trump:Donald Trump announced he will not participate in a second debate with Kamala Harris, saying she has turned down previous opportunities to meet and alleging she lost their Tuesday night face-off.
“When a prizefighter loses a fight, the first words out of his mouth are, ‘I WANT A REMATCH.’ Polls clearly show that I won the Debate against Comrade Kamala Harris, the Democrats’ Radical Left Candidate, on Tuesday night, and she immediately called for a Second Debate,” the former president wrote on Truth Social.
Reuter's, 8:07 PM GMT+2
WASHINGTON, Sept 12 (Reuters) - Democratic U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris leads Republican Donald Trump 47% to 42% in the race to win the Nov. 5 presidential election, increasing her advantage after a debate against the former president that voters largely think she won, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll that closed on Thursday.
The two-day poll showed Harris with a five percentage point lead among registered voters, just above the four-point advantage she had over Trump in an Aug. 21-28 Reuters/Ipsos poll.
Among voters who said they had heard at least something about Tuesday's debate, 53% said Harris won and 24% said Trump won, with the rest saying neither had or not answering. Some 52% of those familiar with the debate said Trump stumbled and didn't appear sharp, while 21% said that of Harris. Among Republican voters, one in five said Trump didn't appear sharp.
Harris, 59, put Trump, 78, on the defensive in a combative presidential debate with a stream of attacks on his fitness for office and his myriad legal woes, highlighting Trump's felony conviction on charges he falsified business records. Some 52% of voters familiar with the debate said Harris "gave the impression of having higher moral integrity," compared to 29% who said the same of Trump.
Many Republicans were also not convinced about their candidate's performance in the debate in Philadelphia. Some 53% of Republican voters in the poll said Trump won the debate, compared to 91% of Democrats who said she was the victor. Among Republicans, 31% said no one won and 14% said Harris got the better of Trump.
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Sam Harris's thoughts on the debate on Substack - I don't agree with him regarding Kamala but I respect him and like hearing or reading his views:
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"My impressions of last night’s debate: Trump wasn’t as crazy or as incoherent as he could have been, but Harris was much, much better than I expected. The key to her victory was that she successfully demeaned him without demeaning herself—and she did this beautifully for nearly an hour. Once she got under his skin (his love of dictators, the ease with which they manipulate him, his crowd size), and he began to unravel, the side-by-side shot of them became a thing of beauty. He became a seething mess and couldn’t even look at her (did he look at her once?), while she just stared at him in disbelief. The entire country could read the questions on her face: “Can you believe this man was ever president? Can you believe that he could become president again?” Much is being said about the moderators unfairly fact checking Trump. But the man lies with such velocity and abandon, he got exactly what he deserved. Yes, Harris spoke a few falsehoods herself—and if the moderators had pushed back on just one of them, the debate would have been "fair." However, anyone concerned about fairness lost the plot a decade ago. The great disservice the media did to this country was to normalize Trump in the first place. The man is a moral lunatic. In truth, the moderators could have been much, much harder on him last night, and it would have been entirely justified. Just realize what we were looking at: The blizzard of lies aside, we watched a former president rave about our country being already “destroyed” and a coming nuclear war. Nothing about this was normal or remotely acceptable. And yet, even the “unfair” moderators had acclimated to the insanity of it and didn't blink. Anyway, Harris deserves high praise for how she handled a very difficult task. I just hope it matters in November."
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"My impressions of last night’s debate: Trump wasn’t as crazy or as incoherent as he could have been, but Harris was much, much better than I expected. The key to her victory was that she successfully demeaned him without demeaning herself—and she did this beautifully for nearly an hour. Once she got under his skin (his love of dictators, the ease with which they manipulate him, his crowd size), and he began to unravel, the side-by-side shot of them became a thing of beauty. He became a seething mess and couldn’t even look at her (did he look at her once?), while she just stared at him in disbelief. The entire country could read the questions on her face: “Can you believe this man was ever president? Can you believe that he could become president again?” Much is being said about the moderators unfairly fact checking Trump. But the man lies with such velocity and abandon, he got exactly what he deserved. Yes, Harris spoke a few falsehoods herself—and if the moderators had pushed back on just one of them, the debate would have been "fair." However, anyone concerned about fairness lost the plot a decade ago. The great disservice the media did to this country was to normalize Trump in the first place. The man is a moral lunatic. In truth, the moderators could have been much, much harder on him last night, and it would have been entirely justified. Just realize what we were looking at: The blizzard of lies aside, we watched a former president rave about our country being already “destroyed” and a coming nuclear war. Nothing about this was normal or remotely acceptable. And yet, even the “unfair” moderators had acclimated to the insanity of it and didn't blink. Anyway, Harris deserves high praise for how she handled a very difficult task. I just hope it matters in November."
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Oh yeah, wow, where did that even come from? Totally unlike Trump to say something like that.ceeboo wrote:Yeah, at best, that was a really bizarre claim by Trump.
I would be perfectly fine with Fox hosting the debate. As you point out, people are mostly set. I doubt that you think -- giving you some credit here -- that any moderator or fact-check team would boost Trump's performance. However, what I think, is that a team that panders to him like FOX would give him all the rope in the world to hang himself with even more of his trademark nonsense if that's possible, and I do think it's possible.
I think the benefit of a Fox debate would be to leave unhinged right-wingers without excuse. They'd still vote for him, but they'd have no lame excuses such as biased mods for Trump's inability to speak rationally.
We can't take farmers and take all their people and send them back because they don't have maybe what they're supposed to have. They get rid of some of the people who have been there for 25 years and they work great and then you throw them out and they're replaced by criminals.