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Tom wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 11:07 pm
The list:

Juchitán de Zaragoza, Mexico
Santa Ana, El Salvador
Medellín, Colombia
Santiago, Dominican Republic
Puerto Montt, Chile
Dublin, Ireland
Milan, Italy
Abuja, Nigeria   
Kampala, Uganda
Maputo, Mozambique
Coeur d’Alene, Idaho
Queen Creek, Arizona
El Paso, Texas
Huntsville, Alabama
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Summit, New Jersey
Price, Utah
Amazing. Who would have thought?

It takes a lot of resources to put these temples where the members need them.

Bit by bit, dollar by dollar, righteous member by righteous member, the work is able to move forward throughout the world.

Back when I served my mission I don’t think this would have even been within the realm of imagination, and yet here we are.

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Tom wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 11:07 pm
Dublin, Ireland

Wow. I wonder if there'll be issues about the design.

There are not very many self-identified members of the LDS Church in The Republic of Ireland.


From Religious News Service in 2023:

But she spent a year doing deep-dive ethnographic research in two LDS congregations — one an established ward with about 70 attendees and the other a smaller branch with around 30.

Those numbers themselves tell part of the story. If you look at the church’s official statistics, LDS membership growth in Ireland looks healthy over the last decade; there were 3,013 members in 2013 and 3,980 in 2022, a 32% increase in just under 10 years. On the other hand, no new congregations have been created in Ireland over that period, which suggests poor retention of new converts and other members.

What’s more, according to the recently released 2022 census, only 1,111 people in Ireland said they were Mormon, a figure that includes both adults and children. This means that 72% of those the church claims as members do not declare themselves as such.



https://religionnews.com/2023/07/25/iri ... 20year,JKR
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Tom wrote:
Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:53 pm
My ward, the Fry Sauce Canyon 19th Ward, has a betting pool going each general conference. (Bishop Sweetbread usually wins; I think he cheats with an inside source.) My picks (with odds):

Spanish Fork Utah (2-1)
Price Utah (2-1)
Parowan Utah (10-1)
Mother of Mahonri Moriancumer Utah (20-1)
Shiz Utah (50-1)
Zemnarihah Utah (75-1)
Ophir Utah (100-1)
Santiago Dominican Republic (3-1)
El Paso Texas (4-1)
Rigby Idaho (5-1)
Ensign Peak Utah (55,000,000,000-1)

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I am happy to see Price, El Paso, and Santiago on the official temple list. (Incidentally, since I won the Fry Sauce Canyon 19th Ward temple announcement betting pool, Bishop Sweetbread has to pay my tithing this month and I get to shave his head at the next ward council meeting.) I must confess that am saddened, however, that the Relief Society sister in Parowan has been forgotten once again. Will there ever be a temple in Parowan? It’s a wonder that she remains faithful.
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Morley wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:36 am
Tom wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 11:07 pm
Dublin, Ireland

Wow. I wonder if there'll be issues about the design.

There are not very many self-identified members of the LDS Church in The Republic of Ireland.


From Religious News Service in 2023:

But she spent a year doing deep-dive ethnographic research in two LDS congregations — one an established ward with about 70 attendees and the other a smaller branch with around 30.

Those numbers themselves tell part of the story. If you look at the church’s official statistics, LDS membership growth in Ireland looks healthy over the last decade; there were 3,013 members in 2013 and 3,980 in 2022, a 32% increase in just under 10 years. On the other hand, no new congregations have been created in Ireland over that period, which suggests poor retention of new converts and other members.

What’s more, according to the recently released 2022 census, only 1,111 people in Ireland said they were Mormon, a figure that includes both adults and children. This means that 72% of those the church claims as members do not declare themselves as such.


https://religionnews.com/2023/07/25/iri ... 20year,JKR
The church currently claims 4,076 members. That’s quite the discrepancy between that figure and the census figure.

The latest census reported 5,149,139 people.
The number of people who identified Roman Catholic as their religion was 3,515,861. This was 69% of the usually resident population.

The number of people who identified as having No Religion was 736,210. This was 14% of the usually resident population.
https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublic ... ryresults/

So Mormons would make up about .02% of the population.

One census table I found didn’t list Mormons as a category.

https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublic ... /religion/ (Table 5.1).

(As an aside, I’m not sure how the number of atheists dropped from 7,477 in 2016 to 942 in 2022.)

I’ll have to pick up a copy of that books. Thanks, Morley.
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I got Coeur d’Alene, Idaho Temple right and Nemo was spot on with the Dublin Temple. I wonder if Dr. Peterson got any hits on his temple bingo card?
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Morley wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 12:36 am
Tom wrote:
Sun Oct 06, 2024 11:07 pm
Dublin, Ireland

Wow. I wonder if there'll be issues about the design.

There are not very many self-identified members of the LDS Church in The Republic of Ireland.


From Religious News Service in 2023:

But she spent a year doing deep-dive ethnographic research in two LDS congregations — one an established ward with about 70 attendees and the other a smaller branch with around 30.

Those numbers themselves tell part of the story. If you look at the church’s official statistics, LDS membership growth in Ireland looks healthy over the last decade; there were 3,013 members in 2013 and 3,980 in 2022, a 32% increase in just under 10 years. On the other hand, no new congregations have been created in Ireland over that period, which suggests poor retention of new converts and other members.

What’s more, according to the recently released 2022 census, only 1,111 people in Ireland said they were Mormon, a figure that includes both adults and children. This means that 72% of those the church claims as members do not declare themselves as such.



https://religionnews.com/2023/07/25/iri ... 20year,JKR
Ireland has 1 Stake (5 wards, 8 branches).
A claimed membership of 4,076 - which probably means an active membership of around 800. (Activity runs at 20% in Europe). The temple programme is simply an exercise in building showpieces in large cities around the world. It’s simply Nelson trying to outdo his predecessors.
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Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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I wonder if the public revelations about the church's accumulation of wealth have had any effect on temple building.
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:44 pm
I wonder if the public revelations about the church's accumulation of wealth have had any effect on temple building.
You mean like contractors bolstering their quotes to take into account what they think the client can pay?
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I Have Questions wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:49 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Mon Oct 07, 2024 5:44 pm
I wonder if the public revelations about the church's accumulation of wealth have had any effect on temple building.
You mean like contractors bolstering their quotes to take into account what they think the client can pay?
No, just spending more on temples in places with low membership to demonstrate appropriate use of tithing.
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